What Not To Say During Suboxone Appt (Top voted first)

My boyfriend has battled with heroin addiction for at least 2 years now. He was prescribed to before, but couldn't afford the maintenance program and ended up banging heroin again. He went back to his doctor to get a script for suboxone again last week, and the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to him. I found another dr who can prescribe suboxone nearby, and want to make sure he gets a script because he will die if he doesn't quit using. Does anyone know any reasons why a dr wouldn't prescribe suboxone?
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Just wanted to add my story in also.. I've been hooked on h for going on 6 months now. I don't know if that's long enough to qualify me to get prescribed suboxones but I'll soon find out and update. I haven't been on it as long as a lot of the other posters on here but it's still pretty bad. I'm so ashamed of my addiction. I've tried to quit lots of times but I'm always just feeling so down about everything that's going on with my life and things that happened in the past that I just want to do another shot to numb all those negative feelings. I was sexually abused for 10 years from the time I was 4 years old til I was about 14. I reported it to my counselor and then from there they contacted cps and I told several people about what happened and NOTHING was done to the guy that hurt me! I'be been suffering with depression my whole life because of the abuse and when I reported it I felt like things were finally gonna get better. But when they just let him go like that, it just made me feel lower than I'd ever felt. Not only did I not get justice but some other kids might be getting hurt right at this moment by that guy! He belongs in prison. After that I just felt like nothing. Like nobody cared about me or believed me. I just don't understand why they let him go. Even a close relative of mine was getting abused by the same guy and another little girl we knew! So wtf? But yeah, since then my life has just been going downhill and 10 months ago I broke up with this guy I was with for over 6 years and I have two kids with him. I was so sad about it that I hooked up with this other guy to try to forget about my ex and he's the one that got me hooked on h. I want to quit for myself and my kids. Right now I don't even have my own place to live. My son's staying with his dad cause he goes to school and my younger daughter and I are staying with my boyfriend. Since I've been on h it's just taken all the life out of me. I know what I need to do, like going out and looking for a job and a place to live and all that but I just don't have like the will to do it. And it's because of h. I want to stop for good but it's so hard. I've gone through withdraws before and they're just unbearable so it keeps me going back for more. I'm hoping to get suboxones and get my life back on track. To anyone that's reading this and cares, please pray for me and wish me luck getting a script. I'm kind of scared to even do that cause I feel like the doctor or someone will report it or medicaid will see that I'm getting a prescription for a drug problem and they'll report me to cps and I'll lose custody of my daughter. Some of y'all are probably thinking I should because she shouldn't be with me if I'm using h but since I was sexually abused, I'm absolutely terrified to let anyone else have her! I don't even leave her with a babysitter to go out or anything. She's always with me. I won't even leave her alone with my own brothers or sisters! I don't think they're capable of doing any kind of harm to her but its always in my head that pedaphiles, predators or any child molester is almost ALWAYS the person you'd least expect! So anyways, again, please wish me luck on recovering and staying clean. Oh and I've also od'd once. It wasn't a serious one. I didn't even know it happened. I just thought I fell asleep but my boyfriend told me I wasn't breathing and I was all blue and he gave me mouth to mouth and I woke up. I'm scared to overdose again or lose my daughter. It's bad enough I don't have my son. Another reason, out of a million, why I'm so depressed and my life is all messed up right now :'(

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Its easier if you actually need the med to knock that sh** off im a H user and oxy alll i want is my life back be honest and tell them u use excescively they cant say no when ur on the verge of a overdose and i feel like that. use this as needed or you will properly fu** yourself and youll be a junkie forever.. help yourself no else will and be honest to a point exajurate alot.

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If you want to get a script, Goto www.Suboxone.com and find another doc near you that writes and tell him you are on oc pain meds and your doc recomended that yiou go to a suboxone doctor. Tell him that you take 3 40mill oc's everyday and cant afford the meds anymore and that your starting to run out earlierier every month. I want to quit but i need help making it thru the first 3 or 4 weeks. I heard that suboxone helps. Make sure you got oc in your piss it might help. The thing is that every doctor is different. Try not to pay till you see the doc , so if he dont write dont pay. Ha I quit on 6 suboxone 8mg pills and started with 2 then 2 then 1 1/2 and worked down. try to ask around, there are alot more people on OCs and dog than you think and most are in the closet. But when it comes to bangin, your on a whole nother level of messed up. Take suboxone after you quit. Just take 1/2 mg or 1mg a day to help keep your mind together and smoke some weed, it helps alot to keep your mind off of the Heyron.. good luck

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There are only certain doctors that can prescribe suboxone. Maybe he went to a dr that can't prescribe it. Ask over the phone if they do prescribe it. Go in and say he wants to be clean and not go through withdrawls. Maybe say he is going to go to counseling also.

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Dear Worried Wife,
I feel for you. How does a heroin addict get a loving wife who sticks by his side? I know that many addicts are quite charming, maybe that's it. Loving, kind, compassionate, capable of feeling pain both for others and for ourselves, for the pain we have experienced, childhood abuse, neglect, abandonment, violence, killing, institutions, prison, love, child-rearing, joy, fulfillment, marriage, divorce. And the thing that will always work to make you free from pain, opiates.
Suboxone will work, especially initially, if you take the test dose and come back tomorrow for the next dose, and then you get the month prescription. If you can continue to take as prescribed, you will remain opiate free.
I am going through a ad spell right now. I can't take as prescribed so I've run out before the month is over. I'm pretty discouraged right now. For 1 year was okay. Not sure what is wrong now but I'm hurting emotionally & physically as 'scrip will not be available until about 12/5; meanwhile I've got like 2 left.
We all die in the end, I wish you & your husband best wishes. God bless you, loving someone so hard. Maybe it is all there is in life, that love! Of oboy doesn't make it you can move on & maybe still have a good life !

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You know, it's annoying as h*ll to read what you've written, and know what's going on in the medical community. Apparently you DON'T know, so I'll give you some information: What did Eric Holder say about non-violent and low-level drug offenses, JUST LAST WEEK? Well, here - read it yourself:
theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/12/eric-holder-announces-major-shift-in-federal-drug-sentencing-policies
"If Holder's policies are implemented aggressively, they could mark one of the most significant changes in the way the federal criminal justice system handles drug cases since the government declared a war on drugs in the 1980s"
Wow..looks like that just shows how much space you wasted typing most of your normal "addiction is a choice" rhetoric that people like to spew.

How about what the ASAM summit said back in June 2013 at the summit they had?
Would you like to educate yourself, or just keep on believing that you're right and everyone else is wrong because you say so?

Why don't you watch these two vids and then come back and make some comments.
First:
youtu.be/X9nmv5r4PHc
Second:
youtu.be/aOIL5dI-nbc
Third:
youtu.be/AmqiU_AvG5Y

Now, instead of continuing along the path of ignorance, and spewing terms that make you try to sound intelligent (without posting ANY PROOF), go read proof of the changes being made to laws and the summit on addiction medicine that just happened less than 8 weeks ago. Empower yourself with the current happenings instead of just saying the same thing that everyone else loves to say about addicts...and quit trying to make it sound like an addict is someone who's a lower class or deserves to serve time because you don't know the difference difference in drug dependence and drug addiction. I may come off with an attitude, but this is the kind of verbal diarrhea that people just LOVE to say...and it's just that - VERBAL DIARRHEA. Go ahead and educate yourself...read something recent on the Federal shift in drug policy and sentencing guidelines. If you wanna read something that Obamacare may actually help -- and it's actually the only good thing that I've seen that's coming from Obamacare (at all)...then read what Obamacare is changing for addiction medicine and access to treatment.

Or, just keep on believing what you just know is factual in your own mind. It's a small world you must live in to have not already heard about the Fed changing sentencing guidelines....because they've been discussing it on national news outlets for the past 3-4 weeks...I know our local media has mentioned it and so has the other media outlets...more than just once or twice too. So quit hiding under a rock and ignoring the data that's been presented and the AMA's changes that are being made in regards to your so-called "choice" that people seem to make.

Maybe you could even take a little bit and learn about dopamine, the way that painkillers/opiates, heroin and other drugs affect dopamine and what happens after a while when dopamine levels are extremely high in the brain..and how the mu-opioid receptors will shut down, and cause a person to not feel high, but with the same intake of high amounts of drugs, they just feel normal. And they have to take more, and more, and more to just keep feeling normal. Maybe you could try and be open-minded to learning what goes on instead of just believing what everyone tells you...and teach yourself something you can use as factual...instead of typing a half-page essay and saying it's fact just because it's over 1000 words long. Simply because you're repeating some counselor's beliefs doesn't make it fact...nor have I ever seen what college-taught counselors could relate to addiction, other than being able to say "well, I read this and took a test or two in college"...that's ZERO real-life experience and gives way to this stigma that I despise so much about addiction and it's treatment.

Thanks for sharing your "version" of what you think is truth...do some googling and research on your own and find out for yourself instead of taking what you're told and running with it. It only makes you sound foolish when everything you said is disproven by just the stuff I listed above (and I mean the links to videos and the laws Eric Holder is trying to change, plus the sentencing guidelines being changed).

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theres a great sub doc in vero beach dr.parvus hell save ur mans life he sure as hell helped me iwas strung out bad on heroin myself gurl just support him and be there if hes withdrawin just dont enable him but gettin clean is sooooo hard and u need good peeps in ur corner no addict can do this alone ive been struggling wit addiction for almost 10yrs and im only 27 its really hard but yea look up dr.parvus vero beach or put in ur zip code good luck

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Hang in there, all. You can find a doctor who will prescribe Suboxone, if you want it. Plug in your zip code online & find a suboxone doctor in your area. You can find someone who can help take care of your child, someone who is trustworthy. Everyone has a childhood; none are perfect. Try to overcome, Priscilla & Alice! I believe in you; I want to encourage you. I am not religious, but I pray for you now, I pray you are all right & you find peace, food and shelter and love for your children. I'm praying to the Super Best Friends, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Moses, Krishna, all the Hindu gods, & the native American Spirits of the North, East, South, and West. Amen.

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Priscilla, The best thing you can do is tough it out and get away from the man that got you hooked. I have been an addict for 30 years, now going through counseling and substance abuse treatment has tought me that I can not blame others, no one twisted my arm. what I do realize is I am co-dependant. I can not be alone and need others to feel loved. With the addiction, I am a follower and will abuse the type of drug whoever I am with is doing. I was being physically abused but stayed for the drugs, and fear of being alone. Every time I get away, I instantly get better. So although I used to say it was their faults, I now know it is only mine. I have been clean for 6 months, easier now since I got a felony and am on probation. If I use I go to prison. Even with that said, I still long to use opiates/Heroin. Want to get on suboxone cause I don't trust myself, gone to rehab for one month now and they do not want to give it to me because of being clean. This makes me want to use just to get the added help I need. I sought out dysfunctional relationships so I could feel normal, raised in abusive families and sexually assaulted/raped multiple times. I feel for you so much as you sound just like me. I would like to talk to you more about it, it helps me to talk as people around me would all leave if I shared what I am really thinking. God Help Us Both. Get the help you need and get out in that order.

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And you apparently don't look into the damn facts that were posted, like the sentencing guidelines being changed by ERIC HOLDER...you know, he's not a doctor or member of "big pharma", right? Try checking out the White House staff...he's there. So, you're "disease you can go to jail for" crock won't hold water much longer, because that's changing too. Keep on telling people who have been through it what you think of their addiction with your education...and zero experience in it at all. I like it when people tell me what I should feel or how I should act when they've never felt what I feel. And it's nice to see that there's always that one who doesn't understand, and refuses to change their ignorant minds about the facts regarding this. So keep spouting your crap....there's plenty of people who never had an addiction, just like you, who know more about addiction than the addicts who've spent years in it, and know what it's like.
It's good to know that someone out there knows more about what I've been through than I do...And I hope you get some kind of glorious recognition for coming here and posting your little belief system...instead of worrying about the thousands that die from addiction, you're worried about what the hell it's called. Way to be focused on the issues...
Maybe you'll get an award for being a narcissistic know-it-all, I bet you're proud of yourself. Does your arm hurt much from patting yourself on the back, seeing as how you're doing such good deeds by telling people how wrong they are, with your years of addiction medicine experience and your bought education - which lets you better tell people what they are feeling because, according to you, everyone else is too stupid to know what's going on. It's gotta be pretty lonely at the top of that pedastal you've placed yourself on. I was thinking you deserved a good spot in a much lower, much, much hotter place, but now I've stooped to personal attacks instead of the facts (which are purposely ignored to push your agenda on everyone).
What a waste this has been...you never clicked any of the links because "you already know"...why did I even bother responding to your ridiculous comment to begin with. I'm all ears for the next chapter of "I know it all and can tell you how you feel better than you can tell me"...so post away.

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Please hang in there &do everything you can to get on the Suboxone Program! I've been on it 5 1/2 yrs. & its the best thing I could of done in & with my life.

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If he got it from a suboxon dr and just quit it. They think he's going for any drugs to get a fix at the time just tell them when he stoped taking it he wasn't doing to good with out it.

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i know your post is old but i am going through the same thing with my husband and i was wondering if the suboxone helped we are going to go to the doc this week and try to get the problem solved but i dont know what to expect just wanted to know if it helped

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Hey, I been using H for about a year now. I first started to use it to get off oxy's what a fool I am. Both of these drugs have ruin my life. I was always a weekend warrior and I never thought I would ever get hook, but I am. I really want to quit I think of all the money I have spend and it makes me sick I'm sure it had taken me to at least $60,000 or more. I've always know about soboxone a lot my drugie friends have take it. I took it once and made me sick as hell, I don't think I waited long enough. I have cut down to about 2g a day. How long should I wait to take it?? I got my hands on some N8.. I really want to quit, I need to quit I fear that one day I may just kill my self I can't take the hiding it. I'm always broke because every dollar I make goes to this stupid drug. I snort it, I don't injected.. How long before I take it.. I heard at least 24hr but it's hard as I start to get really sick by the 12th hour.. So, I also got some 2mg xanax to help me with the last 12hr..

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my doctor, a phsychiatrist with addiction therapy specialties gave it to me for maintenance, but he believed in "doing what works". that and addys did for 4 years. my life flourished, but eventually I got off subs and repeated he cycle.
that's when i found out that docs didn't want to hear that I'd been on
on subs before and relapsed. but than again, the new doc was a partner at a methadone clinic. So I'm on the hunt again; being so expensive, there is no room for error, whether your on the street or seeing a doc. This time i plan on not telling the relapse part

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i want suboxzone soooo bad..... i been buying off the street and getting low..... i have never been prescribed pain meds but been doing oxy heroin methadone off the street since i was sixtteen..... i dont even feel subs no more but i need them so i dont do meth or any other drugs..... im just scared they wont write me a script after i pay all that money? what do i do......

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You are most likely the most close-minded person I have EVER heard of in my life!! INSANE!! Have you done the "been there and done that" thing with addiction?? It sure don't sound like it!!

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Since the Dr.s have to go through a special training program, etc. to be able to prescribe suboxone they will look for reasons to NOT prescribe it, and those who need it most may not get it. My suggestion would be a inpatient facility if you can get the state to pick up the bill, the DR. will continue the suboxone. If not, stick to the facts while saying as little as possible, don't mention a failed rehab attempt ( although technically this should make him a better candidate, not a worse one) and try to look at it from the Dr.s liability point of view, that's what makes decisions for them. Try to appear like a good candidate for rehab, stress the importance of receiving the medication I really want to stop using before it's too late Good Luck

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i got into a bad car accident in 2000 i suffered lasting injuries that caused daily pain, and became quite addicted to fentenal . due to constant nagging from family i felt looked down on and week . i admit the addiction caused even more depression which caused anxiety and insomnia . i have been unable to work, lost interest in hobbies and social interaction , basically feeling hopeless and worthless. its been a nightmare of a rollercoaster ride. when i attempt to stop using opiates i crave other street drugs badly. Its a guaranteed failed attempt every time. I'm headed to go down the H road next. I've tried it 3 or 4 times and liked it a lot , to much. It scares the crap out of me how fast i could fall into that. I need serious help now before i can't ask for help any longer. A lot of my using is obvious, i know, however i wear myself out hiding so much of it too. the physical withdraws are off the hook and i can not make it through them, they don't EVER taper off. I live in a small town and we have plenty of dr's who prescribe pain meds but NONE who prescribe suboxin . I don't understand this. I make a two hour drive and find a Dr who will prescribe suboxin but i want it prescribed that day. I can't handle having to wait another three weeks for a second appt to get it. I have kicked the coke habit in the 90s to hitting the meth and alcohol extremely hard resulting in the car accident which landed me in the hospital then rehab. I had a few years clean but struggled with pain and it wore me down. I eventually gave in to opiates and it and now if i dont have those its so easy to score dope its not funny, and i just recently dabbled in H. My drug use is X 3 now, it really should be easier to be prescribed a med that will help me stay off the sh*t , instead of the sh*t being easier for me to selfdestruct with. I guess my question is are there dr's who will give me suboxin the day of my first visit? I need some help physically to be able to begin to help myself mentally.

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Doctor's who talk like that should be barred. They don't know addiction treatment and don't need to be steering patients away from Suboxone...so what if it's hard to quit Suboxone....it's harder to come back to life after you OD on opiates. It's also harder to undo the damage done by an addict who is dope-sick and trying to do whatever they can to score. I wish someone with a degree would try to tell me how their college education taught them how I feel...I'd give them a good piece of my mind while telling them where to go, and what to kiss...

At any rate...ANY drug is hard to quit. Doctors say this crap when they don't wanna fool with it...but Suboxone is a HELL of a lot easier to taper and stop than friggin heroin...or any other opiate that has been abused for a lengthy period of time. They don't care to divulge that info. Personally, if I encountered your doctor, I'd tell her she needs to have her license REVOKED, become a junkie, and find out for herself what life is like as someone hooked, then she could pass judgment on what's her preferred method of quitting. This holier than thou attitude some doctors have isn't for people with addiction problems and these doctors shouldn't be wasting anyone's time by dabbling in Suboxone.
Either your doctor is greedy and wants to hold the Suboxone spot for someone she deems "more" of an addict, or she doesn't know what addiction really is and just took the 8-hour course for some extra money. (The data2000 course that allows them to prescribe Suboxone in the first place)

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