How To Get Off Suboxone Successfully - Step By Step (Page 9)

If you are struggling with getting off Suboxone successfully, you may want to take the time to read this. I have read a ton of hype about Suboxone being impossible to get off. How the withdrawal symptoms carry on for days, even months. Below, I would like to encourage you and let you know that it can be done. I AM LIVING PROOF YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT!!! I have been free of Suboxone and all other drugs and alcohol for 3 months and I have never felt better in my life!!!

THE WAY THAT SUCCESS HAPPENED FOR ME AND CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU:

For months I read Suboxone blog sites in the effort to gather some element of hope that would encourage me to make the “jump” to get off my final 1/8 tab (1mg) of Suboxone. At the point I started reading these blog sites, I had come down from 2.5- 8 mg (total 20 mg) tablets of Suboxone. It was fairly easy to get down to 1/8 tab (1 mg). Don't get me wrong, I had moments of mood swings and depression that would fool me because of the way that the mood swings would creep up on me. I felt bipolar during the final ½ tablet to ¼ tablet and finally to 1/8th tablet before I “Jumped off”: The good news is that earlier dose decreases do not affect you as much as you would think. I went from 2.5 tablets to 2.0 tables per day in one week. I didn't even notice any withdrawal. Then, in just two weeks I had the courage to go down to 1.5 tablets per day…. Still, only slight mood swings. Then, I went down to 1 tablet per day a week later. Then 3 weeks later I went down to ½ tablet per day. Again, at this point only mild mood swings that I could deal with because I was expecting much worse. NOTE: I ALWAYS DIVIDED THE DOSES TO AM / PM DOSES.. IT HELPED.

THE BEGINNING OF THE CHALLENGING PART:

Going from ½ to ¼ tablet per day it started to get a little tougher for the first week in terms of mood swings and a tricky onset of depression. Expect bipolar behavior. Tell your family and whoever is in your life if you can. Let them know that they can pray for you if you or they are believers in God. If you don't believe in God, don't stop reading this posting.. I will get to the Spiritual side of things later in this posting. For now, it is my heart and hope that you will read this method of getting off Suboxone. No punches held though, I will be up front with you, I am personally a believer in the one true God- Jesus Christ. He is the One who encouraged me to get on this website and help you with encouragement, hope and truth about what to expect on this tough, but wonderful journey of getting off Suboxone. The choice to believe in God is yours, but I will say that the prayers of my dad and wife were powerful and effective. There was times when I simply could not pray for myself because I didn't feel sane enough to even pray at times, though I still gave it my best. I brought up the prayers right now for you because the bible tells us in Psalm 145:18-19 "The Lord is near to all who call on Him; all who call on Him in truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear Him. He hears their cry and He saves them". That said, let's begin the final jump shall we.

THE FINAL JUMP FROM 1/8 TABLET:

NOTE REGARDING SUPPLEMENTS: I wish that BEFORE I jumped off at 1/8 tablet, I would have used these endorphin boosting supplements. They can be found at just about any health food store. DLPA 1000 mg twice per day, GABA 500 Mg twice per day, Reloria two capsules twice per day, and 5HTP two capsules per day. I would have been better off to have started these supplements a couple of weeks prior to my final jump, but I strongly believe that they helped the process probably more that I could imagine. I am still on these supplements, now some 3 months off Suboxone. (I am not a doctor, nor am I acting in the role of a doctor, so as always please consult a physician prior to starting these supplements)

When I was on 1/8 tablet for 2 weeks I tried to completely stop taking Suboxone and had such a bad first night that it scared me into staying on 1/8 tablet per day, taken in the morning, for 2 months. The problem now lay in the fact that I was going through withdrawal in the middle of the day and a few times I even chose to drink alcohol in the afternoon. I didn't connect that the withdrawal was actually causing my fiending for drugs and alcohol. Those two months were not good times for me. When I finally came to the conclusion that I might be better off just getting off Suboxone completely, it was time to plan. I work for myself and I could hardly afford to take the time off work for fear that I might lose all my clients. I wasn't sure how long it would take to get off Suboxone and get back to a working state of mind? Drum roll please…. Here is how long it takes to start feeling better….

IT TAKES 6 DAYS BEFORE YOU START FEELING BETTER THAN YOU EVER IMAGINED!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY LIE!!!

What You Can Expect:

Day 1: This morning skipped my morning, and only dose of Suboxone. I worked out pretty hard lifting stretching and lifting light, high repetition weights. Don't forget to push yourself to work out even if you don't feel like it. It is hugely important! That night I took two Benedryl and it didn't work like I hoped it would. I was so miserable, achy body, cramping in my calves, a "drive a person crazy" kind of feeling. At this point I had gotten 2 mg tablets from the Dr. because I told her I needed to be able to cut them down while I weaned myself off of them. So I cut a 2 mg film tablet into ¼ which is .5 mg of Suboxone. In summary, I chickened out the first night. I did sleep after that for about 5 hours. For those of you who still have the 8 mg. tablets, this means that you would have to split one up into 1/16 which is pretty hard to do, but possible if you have good eyes and you don't cheat and take the bigger portion. :)

Day 2: The .5 mg from the night prior made this morning like a fairly normal morning. So I stretch for a long time and then worked out hard. After work out, I felt even better, but by afternoon the withdrawal set in again. Felt like I drank all kinds of coffee but I didn't . I was agitated and twitchy, making my mind and physical body feel terrible. To combat it, I stayed very busy all day with cleaning and yard work in the effort to keep my mind and body occupied. I couldn't focus on God yet…. My mind was too messed up. Yes, a person's mind can be too messed up to “feel” God, but trust me He was there with me. Hind sight I see that He was with me every step of the way. I just couldn't believe that He would let me go through such agony, but He is a God who loved me enough to let me feel the pain enough so that I would remember it. This way I would not go back!! Night came and I became scared that I would give in again, but instead about two hours before bed I took another couple Benedryl and this time it worked a little I slept about 4 hours and was miserable the rest. I recommend taking lots of warm baths or showers when you can't sleep, instead of just lying there.

Day 3: Day 3 and Day 4 are the worst. The greatest advantage you have though is that you are starting to get used to the twitchy, feeling like you are crawling out of your skin feeling. Go ahead and stretch your calves as frequently as you can. Flex them as often as possible. I heard from one doctor that it helps work the withdrawal out of your body. I did manage to get out in the yard and work on Day 3. I waited until I felt my best, then took advantage of the moment and went out and "spazzed out" on yard work as much as I could handle it. I even broke a sweat which lifted me up considerably. I took a couple of Benadryl before I went to bed, but only slept a total of about 2 hours the whole night. I couldn't focus enough to read, nor pray, nor watch a movie. None of that was going to happen, so I would either jump in the bath or shower or even find something to do I could tell that sleep was not an option. The first part of the morning on Day 4 is among the greatest challenges I have ever faced. Glad I did not have much planned, because Day 4 morning was the worst of the whole experience.

Day 4: Morning was awful because I was up the night before almost the whole night. That lack of sleep will mess with your head and try to get you to go back. On this day the middle of the day gave me a few very small ½ glimpses of hope. I felt my first surge of my own endorphins come back. Only a couple ½ hour spurts, but hey it gave me hope to NOT turn back. I figured I went this far, I might as well finish this.!! I thought I was going to sleep well this night, but it didn't happen…. Only 4 hours combined , but hey that was progress from the night before. Remember, baby steps. Celebrate the small victories. Relish them! Stay tuned and hang in there because the reward came to me in Day 5!!

Day 5: I worked out first thing in the morning. I pushed myself to do it. I started with a stretch routine. Then I felt like working out. So, try stretching first, then consider working out. I have in my notes 50/50 written down. This means that half the day I felt bad and half the day actually felt good. Did you hear that?…. I felt good. …. That is right … you can get past this. For half of Day 5 I felt better than I ever felt on Suboxone. It was natural and it was the way that God designed me to feel. My own endorphins made their first appearance and they showed up in fine fashion. The bad parts of this day caused me to want to take a nap, so if you have the liberty to do so, then by all means, indulge in that nap. Nap , nap , nap. Because if you answer the call to the mid day naps you will wake up feeling better each time. Don't worry about the extreme tiredness on day 5 and 6, just become a temporary nap person. Listen to you body and what it wants. God is trying to let you know what you need.

Day 6: Congratulations!! You have made it to the other side. I may have had 2 hours of bad feelings today , but the rest was AWESOME. I was productive, back to work, working out hard etc.

Day 7 and 8:

I am putting day 7 and 8 on here because I did hit some tired spells and down times but only a couple hours each day total. I encourage you to nap when you feel like napping. Also be encourage that it only gets better and better from here on out.

Why I Got Off Suboxone:

Everyone will have their reasons for getting off Suboxone. I can only share with you what my reasons were. If you have read this far then you must be pretty determined for your own reasons.

I started feeling like I was feinding for other drugs when I was on two " 8 mg tablets per day, so I asked my Dr. to increase the dose to 2.5 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs or alcohol again. So I asked my Dr. to up the dose to 3.0 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs, chew, alcohol etc. Are you starting to get the picture? This may not be the case for everyone, but it seemed to be the case for me. The whole purpose of Suboxone in the first place was to decrease these cravings and for a time, Suboxone was effective. It gave me enough time to get it through my head that I didn't want to be a heroin or pill addict anymore and that I wanted to get my life together.

Another reason that I decided to get off Suboxone was that I was also curious if it would feel better to just be on nothing? (Except the supplements that I mentioned above) The outcome that I came to is that I feel way better than I ever have in terms of physical, mental, and Spiritual well being.

THE TESTIMONY:

If you have read this far you may as well keep reading because the best part is yet to come. Remember, I am of the opinion that it was my faith in God that led me down this long and intricate road that I just described above called, "How To Get Off Suboxone " Successfully". God worked in ways that I never would have dreamed. I could have strategized all month long and never came up with the plan, method, or the outcome that God came up with. The Bible says in the book of Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways my ways", says the Lord.

You may not believe in God, or maybe you do, or maybe you know God, but stopped believing. If you are one who is running away or does not believe in God, know this, drugs and alcohol can certainly fog your view of God. It is my opinion that first you must get clean and sober then you have a better chance of making an informed decision as to God's authenticity.

Whether you believe in God or not, you will one day face Him. Either he will be welcoming, or judging you. I have chosen to give Him my life and submit to everything that is written in the Bible. I accept it as truth. The bible says that the Word of God is Living and Active. It also says that every word within it is inspired NOT by man, but by God. I have chosen to believe this and it has changed the way I think. Romans 12:2 "Do not conform any longer to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."

If this part of my testimony and experience sounds too Churchy to you, then at least do yourself a favor, … Ask God to help this "Christian talk" make sense to you. Seriously, have you even told Him that the "Churchy Stuff" makes NO sense to you? Have you even told Him that? Have you bothered to share that with Him? Do you know that He cares and wants to hear that come from your mouth? He wants to hear you humbly express to God that you don't know. Have you opened yourself up to the fact that if you open yourself up to Him that He will begin to show you the "mysteries" of His Word like you never imagined possible? 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land."

If you have read this far then, then I believe that the Spirit of God is calling you…. Listen to it!!! Jesus states that "My sheep hear my voice"

The place where you are if you are reading this is not a comfortable place. I have been right where you are. With all sincerity, I want you to get to where I am. True Joy is in my heart every day that I awake. There is a peace that surpasses all understanding that guides me now. I strongly encourage you to seek God first, because I want to see the peace of God enter your heart and mind.

RELAPSE PREVENTION:

For me, I have found that devoting myself to praying and studying my Bible and reflecting on what God has done and what He promises has been life changing. The Bible says, "Who is going harm you if you are eager to do good" 1 Peter 3:13, It also says, "a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself" Proverbs 27:12

I have a half hour to 45 minutes carved out each morning to spend reading my bible, praying much thanks and reflecting on what the bible is saying. I also listen to J. Vernon McGee on Through The Bible .org the web address is ttb.org. You can't claim to not understand the Bible, because this website WITH AUDIO walks you through the Bible verse by verse in an exciting way. And it is FREE!! If you don't believe the Bible at this point, try listening to the Dr. J. Vernon McGee's audios. There is a new one posted every day. Or check out the archives.

CONCLUSION:

I do hope that you put some thought into all of this. If you can't think straight right now because you have already started your final descent off Suboxone, then wait until you feel good enough to really absorb what I just shared with you through the "Testimony" section of this posting. I am not trying to sell you on anything… I simply care for you because that is what God has put on my heart. I have been through what you are going through and I want to encourage you. I would like to leave you with this scripture:

Revelation 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.

May God Richly Bless Your Life.

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So frustrated, wrote you my tapper method for last 30 mins and it didn't post. Ok here we go, I believe you said you are down to .50 mg twice daily. If yove been on that for at least 10 days than lets tapper lower. First you need you supplies. A table and chair to sit down at with a white clooth layed under a small plate. Now get very small cuticle scissors, tiny tweezers (usually by the nail polish isle in WalMart). Last thing is a small box a traveling medicating box with the different days of the week in it. Ok ready take 1 8mg film and fold in half twice creating 4 equall pieces. We will tapper down from .5mg twice daily for 10 days. Next you will tapoer down to .4 mg twice daily. Talk An 8 mg film and cut it in half. Put half away in a baggie for bet week and keep one out. Now sit down at you table with your white cloth, plate,scissors and tweezers. Now cut evenly 20 .4 mg pieces that will last 10 days, morning and evening. Put that weeks pieces is a separate containor.now kets keep goi g. Grab the left over half of the 8 mg( 4mg) now and put on the plate.it's time to get a little more aggressive. Take the other half of the previous 8mg's 4mg that was unused and get you cuticle scissors cutting the strips down to 16 pieces. I cut 4 rows by 4 rows. You have now tapered to .25mg twice daily. Now there will be a difference starting this week
you will only stay in this dose for 7 days and then go to .0125 for 7 more days. You will need tweezers to pick the slivers up. What I did was grabbed a piece with ay small tweezers an.laid them under my tongue while the sub dissolved. You should be able to jump off from here but if you can't no worries cut the .125 does oh n have to .06 for a week. You should do great. Read your bible daily a ND seek strength from Him.God Bless.

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I'm sorry DeeDee... you posted a few days ago about how you do the cutting and all but I thought you didn't say how long for each step down but you sort of did, you said "7-10days" but this last post is more elaborate... I think I will copy it and paste in a word doc for others. I have a friend who takes 3 8mg film strips a day, doctor prescribed and has been on them from a doc for a year.. .where's the weening process... I mean really? it's ridiculious. I have to be completely honest when I was taking them I never went to a doctor, I bought them Illegally through friends that were on them... but never EVER did I take more than a half in a day. I've never taken a whole one in my life in a day. So it surprised me that my detox was so bad. I was on them for 2 years, but never a lot. I guess that weening as low as you did is really important. thanks for your story.. hope your feeling well.

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Kris tapper every 7-10 days by 15-20%. When peices get low you will need the tweezers to hold the little pieces. Also use a razor blade. I promise if you jump at .125 0r .06 you should have minimal detox for only 5-7 days. I feel 50%better today. I'm in day 7.

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Ok guys I have been doing housework and laundry today. Took an ativan when I woke up and will take one at bedtime. Should be my last day taking any pills, except for my vitamins,supplements and
Holistic oils.Tomorrow I start day 8 and life should star yet getting back to normal. I can testify try hat this was easy because Jesus ked the way for me. I belies e He wants me to testify how you too can battle addiction and satin out of your life.one week is all it took me. Love you guys, stay strong

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Kris, I would be happy to type up a more formal tapper schedule for your friend. The only thing is tapering is person specific. Depending on how high a dose they take and how often.Let me know

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Dee Dee,
I'm still doing great on the subs, thanks for asking. I am thankful for your and the others accounts of what it's like when you decide to taper down. It gives me a realistic idea of what it will be like when my time comes. And thank you for the advice of starting with the lowest dose possible. My doctor started me on 16 mg a day. The first day I only took 8 mg and felt great. No physical withdrawal and I did better than I expected mentally as well. I was expecting to still have pretty strong cravings, but today is my 6 th day on the subs and I only have occasional urges that I just have to push out my mind. I do have a question though. On my second day I took the 16 mg (as I'm prescribed to do) and actually felt worse than I did on the 8mg. It gave me a terrible headache, and it didn't do anything more for me in terms of reducing cravings, so on the 3rd day I went back down to the 8 mg dose. I was surprised that such a small dose is so effective since I was using pretty heavily. I have noticed though, that I'm starting to have cravings late in the afternoon until I go to sleep, since the sub has a long shelf life I know it isn't because it has worn off, maybe just a mental thing? And I was wondering about tolerance, after time will I begin to build tolerance and need more? Like with narcotics, or does your therapeutic dose prettyy much stay stable once you reach it? Should I tell my doctor that I'm only taking 8mg, or should I save the extra for when I decide to taper down? Sorry bout all the questions, but yall seem to have plentyof eexperience with the suboxone. Thanks for all the support and I hope your feeling better, I read that you made the jump and this is your 7th or 8th day of freedom. Congratulations!

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Ok Carrie I think I know what is happening. If you are on one 16mg dose per day, please go to 8 twice daily every 12 hours. I never could ha e taken once a day, however I hear some people do. Now if this is what occurred then of course your detoxing half of ea h day. Now I would go Down to 7mg twice daily for 10 days. If you have the films they will be easy cut at this kevel. Write back and let me know if I got the facts straight. So proud of you, God is with you!!!

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Reread your post again I really think you Dr meant to write it for twice a day. 8mg twice daily us a normal dose. Now I am not a doctor just heard a lot of patients talking about it on line and that's what my pharmacist said. To be honest when I started 16mg would have made me sick too. Listen to what your body is telling you. Also always be honest with you Dr because he will be you strongest advocate. Tell him you are going to break the 16 in half and give the reason why that by 12 hours you go ba j into withdrawals. I did the same thing always even up u til the end. I must have a shorter half life than most people using the sub.

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This will be a process girlfriend but I want to make sure it is a positive one for yourself. I have said in previous posts that suboxone is a fabulous medicine that if used correctly can get people permanently off off opiates and other drugs. No sub detox if done correctly should only take a week. With medications to help with side effects it is more than bearable. It cracks me up when people bash suboxone detox because I always see sub detox people on this site typing away but when an opiate a user is detoxing they are curled up in a fetal position and would never be on a social chat site talking about their day...lol Get my point. So do not let people scare you,that is the devil trying to get you freaked out. Asking God to surround you with his white light. So proud of you.

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Doing good today, slept good but took the Ativan at bedtime which I wont do anymore. Got to read my bible and went for a short walk. The left over symptoms today day 9 is no appetite and flushing the toxins out,constantly running to the bathroom. That is good, just drinking plenty of fluids to stay hydrated. My mood is good, looking forward to working tomorrow. Still a little lethargic but getting better daily. All in all the detox really only took 5 days because the first two were symptom free and the last two were so mild I really don't count them as full out detox days. So there is my testimony that sub detox shouldn't take more than a week if you tapper down properly. God bless. Sure hope my testimony will help at least one person

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Dee die,
I'm seeing a doctor at a methadone clinic so they make me take both at one time right in front of them. I think when I get to my car I'm going to take one out and save it for the evening.

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And unfortunately they give you the tablets and not the film :(.. I talked to my counselor and she is going to try to help me go ahead and get a actual monthly prescription which will make controlling my dose a lot easier

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So sorry, you need to tell them the dose is ri high and let you take twice a day. Mine was different I just asked my regular Dr for a script due to the struggle of getting of Norco. I guess my circumstance's were different. Do what you need to and use the counselor as your advocate.

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IM ON DAY 9 OFF OF SUBOXONE. I WAS ON 16MG FOR 1 YEAR. I TAPERED DOWN TO 4MG IN JUST 7 DAYS WITH NO DISCOMFORT. I JUMPED FROM 4MG EXACTLY 9 DAYS AGO. I SLEPT UP TO 10 HRS EVERY NIGHT. THE ONLY WITHDRAWLS IVE HAD WERE RESTLESS LEGS FOR A FEW HOURS THE 4TH DAY, BUT IT WAS NOT CONSTANT. I HAD A RUNNY NOSE ON THE THIRD DAY. HERE ON DAY NINE I FEEL PERFECT. I WOULD SAY THE COLD VIRUS IS WORSE THAN WHAT I WENT THROUGH. IM ONE OF THE FEW LUCKY ONES I GUESS?
I CAN SEE HOW ID HAVE MAJOR WITHDRAWALS THIS LATE, U THINK?
I READ 100S OF HORROR STORIES AND IVE STRESSED OUT WAITING ON IT TO HIT ME.
I WISH EVERYONE THAT STOPS GOOD LUCK. THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THAT SAVED ME WAS THAT I WAS ON SUBS FOR ALCOHOLISM, NOT OPIATES, SO POSSIBLY IM IN THE CLEAR?
ANYHOW, I HOPE EVERYONE MAKES IT THROUGH THIS WITH THE SMALLEST DISCOMFORT POSSIBLE.

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Wow subs for alcoholism? Subs are addictive themselves so I don't think that's it...but whatever it was that's great you didn't have much an issue...how's everyone doing?
Deedee?

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Truth! I tried getting off subs many times but never succeed. I usually have lots I'd trouble staying at a low dose. I get as low as possible then jump ct. Usually turns out to be 1 mg or so. Plus I've been told that the medicine is not equally distributed in the film anyhow! Can anyone give me some advice on how to proceed???

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1mg is way to high of a dose to jump off at. Keep tapering down to at least .125 or better yet .06 You should not have any problems if you get down that low. Don't be discouraged 1mg is still fairly high. Good luck

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day 10 off of suboxone! and other than super mild issues on day 3(runny nose), i have yet to experience the withdrawl.
went from 16mg to 4mg in one week then jumped. (was on 16mg a day for a year.)
doc put me SUBs for alcohol because i was a pain pill addict over 10 yrs ago, and she said now that i cant drink(anibuse) that i would likely go try to substitute alcho with pills.and claimed SUBs stop alcho cravings. i stopped feeling like a human on it, so i did a 1 week taper and jumped from 4mg.
im praying i still stay fine, but my luck has not been the best lately.
is it common to go withdrawal free this long(10days) then get smashed with WD?
good luck to everyone currently in wd or those planning to quit.

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Hey this is d. I'm making my first 48 hour jump and I plan on taking a small crumb tomorrow morning and pressing on for 2 more days. I've read all these posts. I guess fear is a big factor and I am scared but I want my life back pray for me

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I actually read a study that proposed jumping from a higher dose of subs is ACTUALLY less painful than tapering to a very low dose. Logic says that makes no sense but it was worthy of several medical institutions conducting on going studies. I've been on subs twice. I jumped from 8mgs back in 2008 and barely felt any WDs, then just this past September I weened down to 1mg and jumped BS went through Hell for several weeks.?.? Maybe there's something to the theory? If you're still doing good at 10 days, I'd say that's a VERY good sign. When I quit back in September I was in full blown WDs by day #3. Keep us posted as to how you're doing and good luck!

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