How To Get Off Suboxone Successfully - Step By Step (Page 7)

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If you are struggling with getting off Suboxone successfully, you may want to take the time to read this. I have read a ton of hype about Suboxone being impossible to get off. How the withdrawal symptoms carry on for days, even months. Below, I would like to encourage you and let you know that it can be done. I AM LIVING PROOF YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT!!! I have been free of Suboxone and all other drugs and alcohol for 3 months and I have never felt better in my life!!!

THE WAY THAT SUCCESS HAPPENED FOR ME AND CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU:

For months I read Suboxone blog sites in the effort to gather some element of hope that would encourage me to make the “jump” to get off my final 1/8 tab (1mg) of Suboxone. At the point I started reading these blog sites, I had come down from 2.5- 8 mg (total 20 mg) tablets of Suboxone. It was fairly easy to get down to 1/8 tab (1 mg). Don't get me wrong, I had moments of mood swings and depression that would fool me because of the way that the mood swings would creep up on me. I felt bipolar during the final ½ tablet to ¼ tablet and finally to 1/8th tablet before I “Jumped off”: The good news is that earlier dose decreases do not affect you as much as you would think. I went from 2.5 tablets to 2.0 tables per day in one week. I didn't even notice any withdrawal. Then, in just two weeks I had the courage to go down to 1.5 tablets per day…. Still, only slight mood swings. Then, I went down to 1 tablet per day a week later. Then 3 weeks later I went down to ½ tablet per day. Again, at this point only mild mood swings that I could deal with because I was expecting much worse. NOTE: I ALWAYS DIVIDED THE DOSES TO AM / PM DOSES.. IT HELPED.

THE BEGINNING OF THE CHALLENGING PART:

Going from ½ to ¼ tablet per day it started to get a little tougher for the first week in terms of mood swings and a tricky onset of depression. Expect bipolar behavior. Tell your family and whoever is in your life if you can. Let them know that they can pray for you if you or they are believers in God. If you don't believe in God, don't stop reading this posting.. I will get to the Spiritual side of things later in this posting. For now, it is my heart and hope that you will read this method of getting off Suboxone. No punches held though, I will be up front with you, I am personally a believer in the one true God- Jesus Christ. He is the One who encouraged me to get on this website and help you with encouragement, hope and truth about what to expect on this tough, but wonderful journey of getting off Suboxone. The choice to believe in God is yours, but I will say that the prayers of my dad and wife were powerful and effective. There was times when I simply could not pray for myself because I didn't feel sane enough to even pray at times, though I still gave it my best. I brought up the prayers right now for you because the bible tells us in Psalm 145:18-19 "The Lord is near to all who call on Him; all who call on Him in truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear Him. He hears their cry and He saves them". That said, let's begin the final jump shall we.

THE FINAL JUMP FROM 1/8 TABLET:

NOTE REGARDING SUPPLEMENTS: I wish that BEFORE I jumped off at 1/8 tablet, I would have used these endorphin boosting supplements. They can be found at just about any health food store. DLPA 1000 mg twice per day, GABA 500 Mg twice per day, Reloria two capsules twice per day, and 5HTP two capsules per day. I would have been better off to have started these supplements a couple of weeks prior to my final jump, but I strongly believe that they helped the process probably more that I could imagine. I am still on these supplements, now some 3 months off Suboxone. (I am not a doctor, nor am I acting in the role of a doctor, so as always please consult a physician prior to starting these supplements)

When I was on 1/8 tablet for 2 weeks I tried to completely stop taking Suboxone and had such a bad first night that it scared me into staying on 1/8 tablet per day, taken in the morning, for 2 months. The problem now lay in the fact that I was going through withdrawal in the middle of the day and a few times I even chose to drink alcohol in the afternoon. I didn't connect that the withdrawal was actually causing my fiending for drugs and alcohol. Those two months were not good times for me. When I finally came to the conclusion that I might be better off just getting off Suboxone completely, it was time to plan. I work for myself and I could hardly afford to take the time off work for fear that I might lose all my clients. I wasn't sure how long it would take to get off Suboxone and get back to a working state of mind? Drum roll please…. Here is how long it takes to start feeling better….

IT TAKES 6 DAYS BEFORE YOU START FEELING BETTER THAN YOU EVER IMAGINED!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY LIE!!!

What You Can Expect:

Day 1: This morning skipped my morning, and only dose of Suboxone. I worked out pretty hard lifting stretching and lifting light, high repetition weights. Don't forget to push yourself to work out even if you don't feel like it. It is hugely important! That night I took two Benedryl and it didn't work like I hoped it would. I was so miserable, achy body, cramping in my calves, a "drive a person crazy" kind of feeling. At this point I had gotten 2 mg tablets from the Dr. because I told her I needed to be able to cut them down while I weaned myself off of them. So I cut a 2 mg film tablet into ¼ which is .5 mg of Suboxone. In summary, I chickened out the first night. I did sleep after that for about 5 hours. For those of you who still have the 8 mg. tablets, this means that you would have to split one up into 1/16 which is pretty hard to do, but possible if you have good eyes and you don't cheat and take the bigger portion. :)

Day 2: The .5 mg from the night prior made this morning like a fairly normal morning. So I stretch for a long time and then worked out hard. After work out, I felt even better, but by afternoon the withdrawal set in again. Felt like I drank all kinds of coffee but I didn't . I was agitated and twitchy, making my mind and physical body feel terrible. To combat it, I stayed very busy all day with cleaning and yard work in the effort to keep my mind and body occupied. I couldn't focus on God yet…. My mind was too messed up. Yes, a person's mind can be too messed up to “feel” God, but trust me He was there with me. Hind sight I see that He was with me every step of the way. I just couldn't believe that He would let me go through such agony, but He is a God who loved me enough to let me feel the pain enough so that I would remember it. This way I would not go back!! Night came and I became scared that I would give in again, but instead about two hours before bed I took another couple Benedryl and this time it worked a little I slept about 4 hours and was miserable the rest. I recommend taking lots of warm baths or showers when you can't sleep, instead of just lying there.

Day 3: Day 3 and Day 4 are the worst. The greatest advantage you have though is that you are starting to get used to the twitchy, feeling like you are crawling out of your skin feeling. Go ahead and stretch your calves as frequently as you can. Flex them as often as possible. I heard from one doctor that it helps work the withdrawal out of your body. I did manage to get out in the yard and work on Day 3. I waited until I felt my best, then took advantage of the moment and went out and "spazzed out" on yard work as much as I could handle it. I even broke a sweat which lifted me up considerably. I took a couple of Benadryl before I went to bed, but only slept a total of about 2 hours the whole night. I couldn't focus enough to read, nor pray, nor watch a movie. None of that was going to happen, so I would either jump in the bath or shower or even find something to do I could tell that sleep was not an option. The first part of the morning on Day 4 is among the greatest challenges I have ever faced. Glad I did not have much planned, because Day 4 morning was the worst of the whole experience.

Day 4: Morning was awful because I was up the night before almost the whole night. That lack of sleep will mess with your head and try to get you to go back. On this day the middle of the day gave me a few very small ½ glimpses of hope. I felt my first surge of my own endorphins come back. Only a couple ½ hour spurts, but hey it gave me hope to NOT turn back. I figured I went this far, I might as well finish this.!! I thought I was going to sleep well this night, but it didn't happen…. Only 4 hours combined , but hey that was progress from the night before. Remember, baby steps. Celebrate the small victories. Relish them! Stay tuned and hang in there because the reward came to me in Day 5!!

Day 5: I worked out first thing in the morning. I pushed myself to do it. I started with a stretch routine. Then I felt like working out. So, try stretching first, then consider working out. I have in my notes 50/50 written down. This means that half the day I felt bad and half the day actually felt good. Did you hear that?…. I felt good. …. That is right … you can get past this. For half of Day 5 I felt better than I ever felt on Suboxone. It was natural and it was the way that God designed me to feel. My own endorphins made their first appearance and they showed up in fine fashion. The bad parts of this day caused me to want to take a nap, so if you have the liberty to do so, then by all means, indulge in that nap. Nap , nap , nap. Because if you answer the call to the mid day naps you will wake up feeling better each time. Don't worry about the extreme tiredness on day 5 and 6, just become a temporary nap person. Listen to you body and what it wants. God is trying to let you know what you need.

Day 6: Congratulations!! You have made it to the other side. I may have had 2 hours of bad feelings today , but the rest was AWESOME. I was productive, back to work, working out hard etc.

Day 7 and 8:

I am putting day 7 and 8 on here because I did hit some tired spells and down times but only a couple hours each day total. I encourage you to nap when you feel like napping. Also be encourage that it only gets better and better from here on out.

Why I Got Off Suboxone:

Everyone will have their reasons for getting off Suboxone. I can only share with you what my reasons were. If you have read this far then you must be pretty determined for your own reasons.

I started feeling like I was feinding for other drugs when I was on two " 8 mg tablets per day, so I asked my Dr. to increase the dose to 2.5 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs or alcohol again. So I asked my Dr. to up the dose to 3.0 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs, chew, alcohol etc. Are you starting to get the picture? This may not be the case for everyone, but it seemed to be the case for me. The whole purpose of Suboxone in the first place was to decrease these cravings and for a time, Suboxone was effective. It gave me enough time to get it through my head that I didn't want to be a heroin or pill addict anymore and that I wanted to get my life together.

Another reason that I decided to get off Suboxone was that I was also curious if it would feel better to just be on nothing? (Except the supplements that I mentioned above) The outcome that I came to is that I feel way better than I ever have in terms of physical, mental, and Spiritual well being.

THE TESTIMONY:

If you have read this far you may as well keep reading because the best part is yet to come. Remember, I am of the opinion that it was my faith in God that led me down this long and intricate road that I just described above called, "How To Get Off Suboxone " Successfully". God worked in ways that I never would have dreamed. I could have strategized all month long and never came up with the plan, method, or the outcome that God came up with. The Bible says in the book of Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways my ways", says the Lord.

You may not believe in God, or maybe you do, or maybe you know God, but stopped believing. If you are one who is running away or does not believe in God, know this, drugs and alcohol can certainly fog your view of God. It is my opinion that first you must get clean and sober then you have a better chance of making an informed decision as to God's authenticity.

Whether you believe in God or not, you will one day face Him. Either he will be welcoming, or judging you. I have chosen to give Him my life and submit to everything that is written in the Bible. I accept it as truth. The bible says that the Word of God is Living and Active. It also says that every word within it is inspired NOT by man, but by God. I have chosen to believe this and it has changed the way I think. Romans 12:2 "Do not conform any longer to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."

If this part of my testimony and experience sounds too Churchy to you, then at least do yourself a favor, … Ask God to help this "Christian talk" make sense to you. Seriously, have you even told Him that the "Churchy Stuff" makes NO sense to you? Have you even told Him that? Have you bothered to share that with Him? Do you know that He cares and wants to hear that come from your mouth? He wants to hear you humbly express to God that you don't know. Have you opened yourself up to the fact that if you open yourself up to Him that He will begin to show you the "mysteries" of His Word like you never imagined possible? 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land."

If you have read this far then, then I believe that the Spirit of God is calling you…. Listen to it!!! Jesus states that "My sheep hear my voice"

The place where you are if you are reading this is not a comfortable place. I have been right where you are. With all sincerity, I want you to get to where I am. True Joy is in my heart every day that I awake. There is a peace that surpasses all understanding that guides me now. I strongly encourage you to seek God first, because I want to see the peace of God enter your heart and mind.

RELAPSE PREVENTION:

For me, I have found that devoting myself to praying and studying my Bible and reflecting on what God has done and what He promises has been life changing. The Bible says, "Who is going harm you if you are eager to do good" 1 Peter 3:13, It also says, "a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself" Proverbs 27:12

I have a half hour to 45 minutes carved out each morning to spend reading my bible, praying much thanks and reflecting on what the bible is saying. I also listen to J. Vernon McGee on Through The Bible .org the web address is ttb.org. You can't claim to not understand the Bible, because this website WITH AUDIO walks you through the Bible verse by verse in an exciting way. And it is FREE!! If you don't believe the Bible at this point, try listening to the Dr. J. Vernon McGee's audios. There is a new one posted every day. Or check out the archives.

CONCLUSION:

I do hope that you put some thought into all of this. If you can't think straight right now because you have already started your final descent off Suboxone, then wait until you feel good enough to really absorb what I just shared with you through the "Testimony" section of this posting. I am not trying to sell you on anything… I simply care for you because that is what God has put on my heart. I have been through what you are going through and I want to encourage you. I would like to leave you with this scripture:

Revelation 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.

May God Richly Bless Your Life.

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I haven't found the proper information anywhere online so here it is. Subutex/suboxone has a binding affinity of 75% at 2mg. Anymore medication than this amount does not have much value. Tapering to 2mg/day is easy, but you should taper slowly at your own pace. Getting from 2mg to Zero is the tricky part and here's how to do it.

Take your dosage every 24 hours as follows (each number is one 24-hour period and numbers are in milligrams):

2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1.5, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1.5, 2, 2, 2, 1.5, 2, 2, 1.5, 2, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 1, 1, 0.5, 1, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.25, 0.5, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0, 0.25, 0.25, 0.25, 0, 0.25, 0.25, 0, 0.25, 0, 0, 0.25, 0, 0, 0, 0.25, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.25, ZERO

This method is medically proven to work and I did it with no problem (only minor w/d symtoms and slight insomnia). Print out a calendar and mark each day with your correct dosage. This stream of numbers is difficult to look at (but you can see the pattern if you pay attention and write it on your own taper-calendar). You may take some of your dosage in the morning and some early afternoon. For instance, if you're on a 1.5mg day, take 1mg when you wake and 0.5mg mid-afternoon. Do not take this medication in the evening! Use it during your waking hours. If you work nights, take it in the evening and just after midnight. You will have mild insomnia, but will also have a clear head. Make use of your time if you cannot sleep. Exercise and diet make it even easier. This is the best way to taper off subutex/suboxone and live a normal life. I did it after years of opiate abuse and 1 year of subutex/suboxone usage. I cannot find this proper taper information anywhere. Hopefully this info finds you as it's the straight truth. Suboxone now comes in sublingual films which can but cut into correct dosage amounts. You cannot use 2mg pills to accurately taper down to zero. Get 2mg sublingual films from your doctor and explain this taper method if he hasn't already told you about it. I'm speaking from experience and I assure this will work. The reason for the new sublingual films is for proper tapering to ZERO. It takes time, but it's quite easy if done correctly. If you try to taper too fast, you will fool yourself. These drugs have long half-lives and you need to taper gradually to avoid discomfort. This advice will hopefully help you.

Also, one issue I find with addicts is they think they control their taper method and get overzealous. You must follow this correctly and not try and "go for it" on your own terms. Take your time and do it right! You will continue to get distance from the illegal world you were in and get your life straight. Use this medication to your advantage to get your life back. Also, you may be on higher doses when you switch over, but tapering to 2mg/day is easy due to binding affinity. If you're new to subs, take 4~8mg / day for a couple weeks before going to 2mg. This could be necessary and depends on how much illegal stuff you were using before going to subutex/suboxone treatment.

Best Wishes!!! -E

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deedee along with your vitamins its really important to take a magnesium supplement, this will stop the restless joints, also epsom salt is a magnesium salt and when put in the bath water it absorbs quickly into the joints and muscles i put 1 cup in my bath and usually some relaxing essential oils. i did not withdraw from drugs but from many years of debilitating alcohol use, i am 2 years clean and still have trouble with restless legs, i take my magnesium and a bath with the epsom salt and it relaxes me enough that i can sleep. try it! and congrats to all of you who have decided to make a change for the better, its hard, one step at a time sometimes one breath at a time. dont rush it, it takes patience and time. dont be to hard on yourself. we are here with you. prayers coming your way.

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Carrie, hurray for you. You are already half the way through your journey. The decision to quit and the first 24 hours is the hardest. Just remember that the physical symptoms of detox are normal and to be expected. Knowing this you might go to your doctor and get a few meds to help with withdrawal. I will say Suboxen is a great drug that quite frankly is better than popping pain pills or illegal drugs. Now keep in mind that weaning off suboxen is MUCH easier than weaning off narcotics. I was on Norco for a brain injury and tried to wean down like my doctor suggested. All that did was put me into a frenzy. I never could do it and suboxon was my only hope. It turned out to be a wonderful step down drug for getting off narcotics. Now with that said you need to be on a short time. I made the mistake of staying in sub for 2 years. If you are asking for advise I would say go on Suboxone at the Lowest dose possible for the least amount of time under your Dr's care. When you get off you have to wean down the dose. Remember people that detox from narcotic or street drugs wouldn't be able to sit and type in this site because they would be curled up in a ball feeling like death. Suboxone detox people can sit on this site and communicate. That should tell you that it is nothing like the horror stories that are out there. I think a realistic time frame after you jump off a very very low dose like I did is 1 week of withdrawal and then should feel pretty good. I think the people that say it took a month were on insane amounts for years. Remember God already has this planned out for you. Surrender and allow Him to lead you. I will check back to see how your doing. Relax everything will work out??

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Thanks Karen I will try that. Only having issues with restless legs and arms at bedtime. Thank goodness for the valium which I only take at bedtime. Should only have 2 more days. My doctor said detox should only take a week since I weaned down so low. Do t like the valium because it makes me tired the next day but better than not sleeping at all.

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deedee my restless legs and arms is at night to, thats why i do the bath thing, stops the restlessness and helps me sleep. keep strong

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Thanks Karen, I will check in tomorrow and let you know my progress. God bless

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Carrie, suboxone is a great medication and way easier to get off than narcotics. Just please go on the smallest amount for a short time. My Dr started me on 8mg twice daily and after one month I went to 4mg twice daily. Eventually got down to .5 mg twice daily but stayed there for another year. When I realized it had been 2 years I knew it was time to be strong and be done with sub. Now weaning is the only way to get off, very bearable. Your not there yet. Just remember go on lowest dose possible and after a couple months ask your Dr if you can try weaning down.Good luck and I will be praying for you. Remember God has you taken care of, seek Him and there is nothing He wont help through

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Karen one more thing, restless leg syndrome is a medical disorder lots of people suffer from that have never abused drugs or alcohol. It runs in my family and had it before I ever took narcotics. It might have nothing to do with the alcohol but you might just have restless leg syndrome disorder regardless. It will flare up with withdrawals or I even get it when I get the flu. My doctor put me on mirapex years ago. I even heard quinine works great for restless leg syndrome but have never tried it myself

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Day 5 sucks, God give me srength

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Does anyone know why I'm struggling so bad on day 5? Has the withdrawal peaked? Should I expect tomorrow will be better? I want to cry.

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deedee just checking on you. cry if you need too. you are going thru a rough time physically and emotionally. just keep moving forward it will get better. as for the restless legs i was never diagnosed with the actual syndrome, although i do get them frequently, i notice it most when im sick or dehydrated and specially at night. yes quinine is good as well as the magnesium. it seems when you are depleted of electrolytes and minerals it causes cramping and restlessness, thats why i use the supplements it works for me. i wil keep checking on you karen

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Karen what do u think, am I peaking at the worst of it? Remember I was on such a small dose. Do you think starting tomorrow I will start feeling better? How many more days do you think I have left?

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Hello Deedee/ karen and others,
This post was a great help to me when I quit suboxones over a year ago...it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life....so congrats on taking the first steps to quitting!! Sleeping at night was the hardest part, which would make for exhausting days filled with no energy. All in all it took a month to feel 100% better. Don't get me wrong there were days that were worse than others and I thought I could never get through it...but I did and you can too. Keep your eye on the prize and you will get through it....there were some days that this post would be the only thing that would get me through.
God bless you both!!

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Ok Kris please tell me why the first 4 days were easy and dat 5 is bad. Do you think I'm peaking a and will start getting better tomorrow. I jumped off fro. .125 maybe smaller after three weeks. Is it possible that this will be my worst day? My doctor said at Su h a low dose it might only take a week to detox.

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deedee re read the success story they give a really good account of the withdrawal process. just remember you are going to have some bad days, just hang on

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You will have bad and good days...and everybody is different adjusting to being normal. I was the same way though first 3 days weren't bad but subs have a long shelf life, pills are easier to detox from, 3 days and the worse is over.

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Ok guys I called my Dr and he said he is going to switch me to Ativan for the restless legs and to stop the valium. He confirmed like I suspected that Im peaking at my detox level and should be done in 2 days. I called off sick from work said I had flu. Thank God I have a supportive Dr

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Yes that is awesome! Most doctors try to keep you on it...it makes me sick how much it's all about money anymore ...let us know how it works.

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My Doctor just called to check on me. I told him the restless legs are done but now the nausea is unbearable and never made it to the pharmacy to pick up my medicine. He's so funny, he says "your body's revolting against you for taking away the sub". That made me laugh. Anyway laying in bed, feel horrible but so excited that this might be over in a couple days. I will check in later.

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Carrie how are you doing on the sub? I have been so wrapped up with my detox I forgot to check on you. I just woke up, its the middle of the night but I slept good. I hope we all haven't scared you away from using suboxon.I still believe its a great medication. People that detox off opiates don't sit on the computer typing their withdrawal progress but are curled up on the floor. Sub detox sucks but you can function and get out of bed. I have heard horror stories on these sites that people detox off sub for 1-3 months. I asked my doctor about that and he said no the most is 2 weeks, maybe a mild part of the third week but that is more for people that jump off from huge amounts after years of using. Please don't let our stories scare you. I stand by my experience that my sub usage was the correct decision for me. The only thing I regret was staying on it for 2 years. I was just so busy with life never seemed to set a week aside to detox. When I started researching the taper method than I knew it was possible with my schedule. Let us know how your feeling. Please remember to go on lowest dose possible for your comfort. I cut my dose in half after one month from 8mg twice daily to 4mg. Third month went down to 2mg twice daily and so on. Then stayed at .5twice daily. So if you can try to be on a lower dose because eventually when you want to get off it will be much easier. God bless, we are all praying for you.

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