Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 10)

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I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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Adderall isn't prescribed to people to make them smart. People with ADD aren't stupid. I seriously can't take anything else you said even remotely seriously now. You said that people who can't concentrate are just "not smart". Yikes.

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You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Why are you even trolling around on this message board? Are you insinuating that people with add / ADHD aren't as smart? So you don't think people with chronic insomnia shouldn't take sleeping pills? Or people in severe pain shouldn't take pain pills? Yes-- adderall is speed. You're right! I wouldn't have made it through elementary school without "speed." I wouldn't have of all my successes if it wasn't for my medication. We tried EVERYTHING. According to you, GOD didn't make me smart enough so I should just settle on being average? I happily go off of my medication on the weekends and vacations- with no issues. You have no idea of what you're talking about-- you're the one who was born stupid.

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my son is on the 15 mg, of the generic of adderall xr, the pharmacy last time i picked it up gave that to me, i asked questions she seem to say that they work the same i havent seen any difference as long as he has either he seems to be doing the same without either is another story, and hes 12. he only time i see a diffence in it slows down its working is when it needs to be up's in dosage wise becasue hes growing and his body gets immune to the other does. hope this helps, he was on concerta which worked the best but it only goes to 54 mg. and the dr said once an adult theres nothing he can do to up it...so he switched to stratera to help with saving the dosing as he grows, which did nothing at all, couldnt tell he was even on anything, so we tried adderall xr and that worked great then pharmacy gave me the generic and it seems the same to me.

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Can you in the first place prove that God made anyone, and in the second place, if your God is so loving and forgiving why would it "make" anyone with these conditions. Perhaps you could try standing up straight, thus pulling your head out of your *^#!@ and show a little respect for others instead of minimizing how they feel by blaming their illnesses on fairytale creatures!

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Trust your instincts. Do you want your son dependent on the medication for the rest of his life? Consider giving him an opportunity to develop coping skills. Sounds like you turned out ok. I'm sure he will as well. Why take such a risk? Really, think about it. What harm can come from taking this medication? What harm can come from NOT taking it?

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I've been on stimulant meds for over 10 yrs and to be brief, I was on brand name Adderall XR with great success but now on salts IR an can't stand it. So many side effects and not enough benefit. I really wish I could be on brand IR. In a perfect world it would give me the dosing flexibility of IR with the benefits of XR. But I'll never know cuz I cannot find it anywhere. If anyone does have any info on where to get it pleeeeeease let us know.

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This is one of the most uneducated and illogical responses I have seen to date. If you are not smart, no drug will change that? A learning disability is not a low IQ. There is a huge difference. I was recently diagnosed with adult ADD and I am graduating from medical school within a year. You should really educate yourself before you make ignorant replies. Or maybe it's just you that god didn't create to be very intelligent.

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Hi. i went thru what i'm hearing many on this drug are talking about. I went to my local Walmart and had my 20 mg of "Ampheta S/Combo", the generic form i'm normally used to and are oval, light orange-ishand they seem to work fine over a few yrs. Went to a Walmart again and the med was the same, the same Walmart but, those pills were white and round and seemed ok. Recently was filling the same med at a Walmart 30 min. from me and it was the oval and sort of flat and labled the same as the 1st one i mentioned in the start of this. The white one is labled different though! I forgot what it said...it was something like "Amphetamine... ... ...."(don't recall the full name). No biggie...BUT....i had a generic 20 mg Adderall at Walgreens and they were small and round and light orange and didn't work at all! Odd thing is, a person i know who's taking the 10 mg generic Adderall got her script filled at a Walgreens and her's was not working! Her pills at Walgreens were the same shape, just light blue in color. I don't get it! The ADHD is so frustrating first off all, let alone all the fillers or whatever else the FDA allows to be sold in our USA prescribed drug pharmacies. I used to live close to the TX/US border and get meds across the border. Funny how so many americans are brainwashed by themselves, or somebody else and told to not trust Mexico meds stating things like, "you may get harsh chemicals, etc. in the meds". They got it all backwards....i'm more prone to get meds in another country this day in age...based on my personal experience and reading the many post topics like what's on here, and this is about just Adderall! I'm glad i don't have to play "head games" w/my search for proper meds by my own trial and error at diff american pharmacies just to be able to get the right chemicals, etc. in ALL my prescribed meds! It's really a rat race! So many kids need it for school, etc. Imagine what they're feeling and not knowing how to verbalize that to parents, teachers, etc. !! They would feel a bit "different" but not really be able to pinpoint that it was crappy medication!!!

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Please help! Weird generic adderall filled at CVS today. 20mg tablet

This is a HUGE concern for me as I just filled my prescription today (9/8/2014) at CVS and found your post after googling what the difference is as they look completely different as they often do with generics, but I've NEVER seen them look like this nor look so chalky. I haven't taken one yet so I do not know if it will have the same results as my previous ones which were all TEVA pharm also. Did you speak with CVS about your findings with this new pharm company? I would really appreciate knowing what they had to say if you don't mind. Thank you in advance.

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I Agree that was so RUDE!!!! I just started my Script of Amphetamine salt adderall 20 mg for the whole day today is my 1st day and I'm just happy to live life. If you have to come on here to shoot people down for getting help, Maybe you should look I to more than any of us.

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There is indeed a huge difference between XR and reg. Adderall tabs. I have been prescribed adderall for the past eight years because of a terrible sleep disorder (at the worst i would sleep for 5 days straight without even getting up to use the bathroom - kidneys hurt all the time, etc.) so i've been prescribed all diff. types. I was originally prescribed XR. These are the huge differences that I found that caused me to switch to the tabs (but, like you mentioned, every body is different): 1. I could not ride as a passenger in a car without getting sick and sometimes just waking up after a few days and the taste in my mouth would make me sick or just little stupid things. and i experienced a feeling not unlike vertigo/inner ear infection that went along with the nausea. 2. Once I had been taking the tabs for a while, I had a doc who wanted me to try the xr again and I grudgingly obliged. At that point in time I was taking either a 20 or 30 mg dose of the tabs. Taking the same dose of the xr, even if i timed it so that it would be at its peak before it left my body and i would fall into a sleep, didn't work. I found that I actually had to take twice the dose of the tabs i'd been taking to get the same result from the xr. Which is dangerous and not worth it. 3. The XR lasts longer but not as long as most doctors prescribe it for. I found that while the tabs will last me anywhere from 5-7 hours, the xr are supposed to last 12 hours but they are not a steady dose of meds like most xr medications are: they take a while to work and then do not give you the same effect that tabs do (for me, the level of alertness, staying awake, and cognitive functioning so it's very easy to differentiate) until four hours after they have been taken. Then around 6 hours they start winding down again and go away after maybe 8 or 9 hours, however the annoying side effects persist (insomnia, loss of appetite, anxiety, etc.).

If your doc insists on giving you xr, try to compromise and ask for xr in the morning and maybe 20mg or so tab to be taken in the late afternoon. That way you never have to take the xr after morning time and you get the little kick you need once the xr wears down. (Although if i had to work in the morning and was depending on the xr, I would set my alarm two hours early to take the xr and then go back to sleep.) but it'd be better if you didn't have to deal with it at all. If you are given an Rx of the max doseage allowed, 60mg tabs, taking 30mg upon waking and 30mg 6 hours later makes it so that by the time you're ready to wind down for the day you don't have any trace of unpleasant effects in your body. This, in my experience, was not true with the xr.

Hope I helped.
J

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Hello,
I take adrenal because I have my whole life, riddilin, conserta, adderal, vivance it's all been in my body and there are pros and cons to all of them. I also found that over the 20+ years on this I have seen quite the shift in this drug and it seems that its so taboo because of the rapid growth in abuse, hence why vivance was created. I would strongly recommend (which I have done with my wife) go see a phycologist who specializes in ADHD/ADD. This will save you loads of pain because the government is cracking down on family doctors across the nation. Its becoming so f***ed up that I can't go 3 days early to pick up my meds with out being labeled by some text book d*** head pharmacist a pill junkie. The struggle is real and its only going to get worse.

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You have no clue how difficult it is to function normally if you have ADD. For you to presume that everyone's chemical makeup is the same, is ridiculous. Someone that is diabetics or has cancer needs to take medicine to help prolong life. Also, people that use this medication that don't belong using it are criminals. They are severely hurting the people that truly need this medication to function normally.

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I just started classes for nursing and I can totally agree, I was reading my psychology book for hours and hours and even though I read it many time I still did horrible on my test....so glad to see I'm not the only one struggling with this issue. So nice to read post that relate to the same things I've been struggling with. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

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Do not judge others, especially when it comes to taking care of their kids. If a child does have adhd and is having a hard time in school and/or at home then it's time for a medical person to prescribe what is necessary to help. If nothing is done then odds are the child will fail or have a horrible experience at home and/or school. Not everyone abuses adhd medications! ! The reason why they prescribe these meds are BECAUSE PPL NEED THEM TO FUNCTION! !! To offer advice is loving, to tell them what to do in a rude matters is offensive! ! You should think twice before doing so! !

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This is irrelevant to what the OP was asking. It wasn't helpful or called for. Save your words for drug counseling.

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XR is e"X"tended "R"elease averaging up to 5 or 10 hours and IR is "I"nstant "r"elease averaging up to 3-6 hours.

I suggest you watch to free movie "ADD & Loving It"

1st 6 months of taking the medication you always are adjusting, start being aware of how you feel with certain foods and moods too. But after 6 months you should be able to nail down what works and how your body reacts and why.

There is a huge difference in the IR generic Amphetamine Salts when it comes to CorePharma brand, AuroBindo(from India) or AuroLife(US), and Teva/Barr Manufactured brands. Not sure about CorePharma, but I've had Auro, 20mg is pink round labeled "U30"....I didn't like it, and if you research or ask any pharmacist they know that most patients complain about it, same active ingredients but different INACTIVE fillers that may cause different people to digest differently and release the active ingredients in a different order/rate/etc; thus different reactions some good some bad depends person to person. I personally, and find that most others, all like TEVA/BARR brand... that is oval shaped labeled "b-###" (#'s vary depending on your dosage.)

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I gotta say I take basically the same amount of the same medications you take and it has helped me function as a normal human for years and whatever Margerita or whatever her name was with the dumbest post I've seen and no clue what she is talking about and to judge anyone else she's as ignorant as can be. People are on here to seek public help not to be lectured like we are i****s when the fact is you have zero clue what you're talking about!

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Celeste, you have a good point about sating that its nobodys place to play doctor. But if you really want to make a statement that people will take seriously, you're probably better off NOT stating your own personal beliefs (or lack therof) as fact. Unless a person has 100% knowledge of everything in the universe, than nobody really knows whether or not there's a God or not. Just some advice, girl :)

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You should be a shamed of yourself for what you said in this comment. Go back to bed and wake up with some common sense.

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