Replies To: i need help with ativan info

Nick says

Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:39:09 -0800

Dexter, i sent u an email. If u or anybody else wants to talk I can be reached at:
nick.4.all.life [at] gmail [dot] com

dexter says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:24:18 -0800

nick you good sir are the kind of person i have been searching for to talk to. maybe some psyciatist might have sad some of those things but very doughtfull in my mind. there first line is hey here are some pills well fix you right up..... I wish there was some other way for you and myself to speak. this message board is great but only if you would be willing to talk to me outside of this basis would be amazing. i think there is a god, but i am not to into anything atm. if you choose to i would like you to email me.. prolly a bad idea to put it up but oh well. i cna always change it... please send me something at mechlab at comcast .net you seriously seem like one of the most reasonable poeple that i have ever tlkaed to online. thank you for all your help. i completly understand what you were saying and where you were coming form. again thank you and i hope you send an email.

Nick says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:38:37 -0800

Well Dexter you sound level headed enough to know what you want and what you do not want. There is no judgment for you drinking a lot, I'm sure most of us have been there at one point or another.

To tell you the truth I feel relieved and excited for you that you have already made the decision that you do not want to become drugged up all the time.

I feel that I can share some other knowledge with you at this point, since you don't feel very strongly about needing medications. I always try to be sensitive to everyone's position and needs, and I first wanted to make sure that you would not feel threatened by the idea that you can overcome your anxieties naturally.

One of the most influential authors in my life, Eckhart Tolle, stated that the more we identify with our mind and thoughts, the more suffering we create for ourselves. He says that allowing the present moment to be as it is without judging or needing anything from it, is the key to inner peace.

This basically means that while we need our mind because it is a powerful TOOL (when used correctly), the problems arise when we mistake the mind for WHO we are. I don't know if that makes sense, but I will try to give you an example.

I was once very stressed out and anxious about going in for a surgery I needed. Particularly about getting put to sleep with anethesia and waking up feeling like crap. My mind raced for days before and I was hardly able to sleep properly. My digestive system was all out of whack because of my nerves, and my mind kept replaying terrible scenarios over and over. Now, the surgery came and went, and I can say that it was nowhere near as horrible as I thought it would be. My mind had made it out to be 100 times worse than it actually was. The mind tends to do that. But the reason things are never as bad as the mind makes them out to be is because all events unfold in the moment of NOW. The present moment is never really threatening - it is our judgment of the present moment that makes it unbearable sometimes.

So my whole point with that story is that we should try as best as we can not to take things very seriously. I don't know what your religious/spiritual beliefs are, or if you believe in life after death. But one undeniable fact is that we aren't going to be on this earth forever. So anything that seems so horrible or important, will be gone sooner or later. If we can look at that fact from the right perspective, we can immediately be liberated from all of our problems.

You see, we are not who our birth certificates say we are, we are not our jobs, we are not what people label us. Society has conditioned us to be fear based, with negativity bombarding us from all corners. Fear, violence, spending money, attacking our enemies, etc etc, seem to be the main motivations behind much of what we as a society do.

I may have gotten a little off track here, but I really think you can use this anxiety as a tool for growth. It is through our greatest adversities that we can learn the most about ourselves ... the suffering that will set us free in the end. When we've had absolutely enough of all the madness then we can let it all go and realize that we are truly FREE in the end. Because all things pass, the only constant thing that remains through it all is our consciousness (life). I hope that makes sense.

All I can say is to use this opportunity to remember who you really are. Let go of what your thoughts tell you and know you are infinite potential. If you allow things to be as they are and let go of putting so much pressure on yourself, then you will be one step closer to freedom. After all, true freedom is an inner state.

I'm signing off for the night, so I'll be able to check back tomorrow afternoon sometime.

dexter says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:00:02 -0800

when you mena free in that sence i was for about 2 months. i was in europe for those 2 months with my paretns and my sster. the usual day was wake up go to a cafe. go eat dinner and go out that night usualy to a club. im not going to lie i drank a lot in these 2 months maybe a good portion of it was me drinking. not to hide the anxiety becasue not to much was there i felt free there. it was good i felt no pressures or obligations. it was just vacation. there was one week where it got really bad somehting had happened a fmaily member had died and i eneded up drinking very heavily for 6 days ever night i imght have had 16 shots of tequila and about 4-5 beers but that was months ago. once i came ack it was fine for the first 2 months then once school started up again and before it did i started feeling the anxiety again. this makes me look like a bad person buut im really not. i just wantto get rif od this and just tel it to f^&k off anf let me bee.

dexter says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:49:19 -0800

I am not willing to take the long term drugs the ones oh yah take this for a month see how it feels ive tryed that junk twice. made me depressed and i stoppped i will only deal with xanax or valium something along those lines but yes screw ativan and all its nonsencefull suicide bulls%^$&

dexter says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:44:29 -0800

I'm not going ot take any of the meds. till this point i have delt with it my own pay to not deal with it i would go on with my day and fele fine. i only started tlkaing to a dr about this stupid anxiety nonsence maybe 8 months ago. it has been bad but im the kind fo perosn that cna keep a lot of pain in or whatnot not trying to sound like a big man or anything,,, but i mean hell im 18 man its hard. i stopped the ativan i only took it like 3 times it didnt even work. i was thinking about aqupuncture or something along those lines. im not going to end up a vegt head form some crazed psyc making me take 200 diff meds.i try ot not let it rule my life i have days where i just say f it and go on with ym day. but there are some where i dont want ot get out of bed and deal with everything that day. and nick no i have not tryed any of those. seriously thank you everyone who has posted back this has seriously helped and is still helping. my reluctancy for seeing a psyc is that im not willing to be some test subject.i find a better prospective on a website like this then talking to some theropist. you guys have gone throught this and can understand where im coming from. sorry for the late posts. i check this usualy every hour. thank you to all who have posted back

taylor says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:37:08 -0800

Also The ativan will make you severly depressed.Not at first but, down the road after you are on it awhile I ws very sucidal and it is why I stopped. ATVIN bad sh@#

taylor says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:33:24 -0800

OMG don't start the ativan whatever you do...I took it for 2 years and had the worst withdrawls for almost 4 months. It is one of the worst drugs to come off of. There is very little info on coming off it, but I know first hand it was worse than anything I have ever expierenced...It can take up to 18 months to completly stop? I was lucky and only had a few months. In stopped cold turkey and was awake for 9 days straight....BADD STUFF...IF YOU TAKE DON';T TAKE IT FOR VERY LONG!!!!

Nick says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:02:33 -0800

It sounds like runaway thoughts which have taken you over. Even if you are not specifically aware of thoughts before the anxiety sets in, there are most likely sponsoring thoughts. The more you practice "observing" your thoughts instead of being them, the less of an effect they will have on you. It will also allow you to become more aware of why they are triggering anxiety attacks.

Of course, this is only part of the picture, and professional care is always recommened. I'm just speaking to you from one person to another.

There are many holistic options available for treatment as well, which take a direct approach to healing any mental or emotional causes. They take the stance that the human body is designed by nature to heal itself, and that blockages in our energy system (including mental energy) can cause all sorts of problems.

At this point, are you able to imagine yourself being free? By free, I mean free from crippling feelings. Walking freely down a sandy beach, or simply letting all your worries go?

One day you may indeed be at the point where you decide to say F*!k it and realize that nothing is important enough to ruin your day over. All things eventually pass, and all that matters is that you can find one thing, no matter how small, to feel joyful for right now. It can be as simple as a chocolate bar.

I'm just trying to throw as many ideas out there for you as possible, to help ease your pain between now and the time you are able to see a psychiatrist.

Have you ever heard of holistic methods such as EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), or The Sedona Method? Those are alternative approaches which may serve you as well. Hang in there!

dexter says

Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:59:16 -0800

i would say both.