Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 4)

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my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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My understanding is that they are trying to take the "euphoria" affect out of all drugs. I have lots of friends who love opana. Myself, I dont see what all the whooplaw is about them, they dont seem to give me any type of buzz which I believe is part of the "euphoria" they are trying to take out of the the drugs. No matter how I take the opana, regular, snort, or bang, no real result other than I did accidently OD on them when they first came out several years ago, because I was expecting that oxy buzz when I snorted it. I cant nor can my wife find anything that is working well to give a decent quality of life. My wife has a much higher tolerance than I do and is disabled. I just wish they would come up with something to get ahold of all this pain and suffering people are going thru. It's soon going to be a herion epodimic ( or however u spell that) if not already atleast here in Cincinnati. If anyone has an idea as to a decent medicine let me know asap.
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CinciKid

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if you ask for oxycodone er in the generic for you will recieve oc 40s or whatever dosage you may get. there is a new mfg of the generic form and they use the old oxycontin ingrediants

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ChronicPainGirl I was in a car accident two years ago that left me with every bone below my waist crushed, I'm just learning how to walk again and trying to be as normal as possible. To hear you tell these "drug abusers" that you hope they get whats coming disgusts me. What would you like to happen? would you like for them to overdose and die? Would you like for them to maybe end up like myself? My meds were switched just like yours and I'm pretty sure your pain is no worse than mine, but I'm wishing no harm on any human being because of it!! Maybe you should think twice before opening your mouth again.

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Trigger, I have read many of your posts and I sympathize with you concerning your issues. I myself deal with a rather large brain tumor that has the V1, V2, and V3 branches of my trigeminal nerve compressed in multiple places and have been on a wide variety of pain therapies since 1999.

I wanted to comment on your post concerning Narcan (Naloxone). You are correct when you say Naloxone works great in Overdose situations, as well as has a much higher affinity for opiod receptors. Where I differ with you on this, is it has a very poor bioavailability when absorbed through the stomach. Much like Demerol where you get anywhere from 10 to 17% when administerred orally, you get about 2% from Naloxone.

We have been putting Naloxone in a lot of products over the years to prevent people from killing themselves when shooting products up such as Talwin, Subutex, and a few others. Those drugs have not had the issues that you have described. I don't believe that "Big Pharma I.E. Purdue" has put high doses of Naloxone in the Oxycontin tabs. I believe they have perfected the release the product and people that would have had a nice initial onset of pain relief and then a slow gradual process of metabolism, no longer have that. It's a constant release and because of that people are not getting similiar relief. Which is why I think Dilaudid works so well for you. Good initial onset, and slow metabolization. Feel free to post your thoughts.

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PoisonInfo,
Thank you for your info on the Narcan. I did not know about the bioavailability percentages of I.V. vs. oral. Most of my knowlege comes from the Paramedics I used to work with. It did seem that most of the newer long acting pain meds. sure made me feel pretty strange though. In any event the new Oxy (OP's) work O.K. for me, about 20-30% less effective though. I am so sorry to read of your condition. I pray that you have good relief from pain and that maybe your situation will improve. Thanks again. God bless.

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Can you tell me the name of the pain mgmt dr you are seeing? I would really apprciate it! My dr has had me on 90 mg morphine daily and now she is freaking out because of people that abuse it! Those people really make me mad because I finally felt like I finally had gotten my meds straight after 2 yrs and now all my meds are being messed with. sincerely,

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Vanessa,
If you let people know what city you live in maybe someone can recommend a good pain doc.

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Anybody who crushes up anything to sniff or use like heroin should be thrown in prison. I am a person wo has tried EVERYTHING to relieve my pain before reluctantly resorting to narcotic pain meds. All of you lower than dirt junkies are making it impossible for the people who truly need medications like oxycontin to get them. Go shoot heroin. Be the junkies that you're going to turn into anyways. But stop with the meds!!! A LOT of people can't live a normal life w/o them. So just make the leap to the street garbage that inevitably you'll be doing soon enough. But stop ruining countless peoples lives by abusing medications. I hope that some of you know that every word of this is truth

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I am a "failed back pain" patient. I am taking 4 80mg tablets of op (which is the new manafactured type of oxycontin). I have had terrible stomach cramps and at least 1-2 bouts of diarrhea a day. My doctor sugested opana. That is 320mg of oxycontin a day. I am concerned about the change over and what dosage would be effective. I am in bad pain even with this dosage, so I am afraid to start with a low dosage and titrate up. Am I wrong in thinking that I should take opana 40mg four times daily plus opana 20mg three times daily (with 10 extra 20mg tabs in case titration is needed. Please someone out there has to be in a situation like mine, please send me your thoughts. Thank You Katrina

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i dont know anything about the remoxy i have never had it...but i i can help yyou with my opinion to the oxymorphone ir and the difference it has with the hydrocodone ir...if you feel that the hydrocodone ir is not potent enought i would first try upping the milligram if you can because the oxymorphone is much different at least to someone like me that notices effects well...The oxymorphone is much stronger especially in the ir(instant release) form. It is a combination of oxycontin and a strong type of morphine in one pill that is very very potent even compared to oxycontin. I recommend staying on the hydrocodone if you can and mainly because of dependency issues.

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this is to the voice of reality! You should be ashamed of yourself talking about any human being like that regardless of thier problems. That is a very cruel and hurtfull thing to say about someone with a problem!! You have pain problems so should everyone call you a disfuctioning cripple thats good for nothing?? Those people need help and if you are so concerned maybe you should voulenteer at a clinic or something to maybe at least try to help people quit if you are that concerned about it instead of putting your fellow human being down. What if you had a family member addicted to these drugs would u tell him or her they are garbage and junkies or would you try and help??? You are very wrong for what you had said about them and in my opinion you are a lower person than them...god bless you.

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to chronic pain girl...thank you so much for your compasion towards humans with addiction problems!! i myself wrote her as welland expressed my feelings and let her know that is very hurtfull and selfish...you seem very well rounded and a caring person so thank you for standing up for someone like me who does have a problem, i believe she used the term "lower than dirt junkies" and also said to go do heroin since you will anyways and that hurt very badly and i wish that person could understand what it is like to have this addiction...i beat myself up enough and to hear someone talk like that and to know that she basically wishes drug addicts would die is so painfull...what she said sounds like something hitler would say. but thank you so much for caring and i wish you the best of luck with your injuries and i will say a prayer...You will pull through this you just keep trying and keep thinking positive like you are you are a good hearted person and god will reward you for that..best wishes and GOOD LUCK and god bless you.

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to alaway4u...no there is not a 40mg IR opana out there a 5mg IR and 10mg IR that i know of possibly a 15mg one to

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to Marie....i would recommend trying to go to opanas or geting the 15 or 30mg Ir oxycontin they still have those but you will just have to take more at one time.

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Opana or (oxymorphone) is a more potent drug than oxycontin..it has oxycontin and a strong morphine in it..It comes in 30mg ER, 40mg ER, 5MG IR, and I belive 10 and 15mg IR's as well. it is a newer drug that has been out around five years now but recently has really shown up way more or almost perscribed all the time in replacement for oxycontin..hope that helped a little.

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this si to Dr.Abraham.. I wanted to comment on the few paragraphs you wrote about the concern of suboxone and that person taking it with narcotics for a pain breaker...i do agree that is very uncommon abd if that person is doing it the suboxone should put that person into aoutomatin withdraw and severely bad to...BUT this person may be getting subutex and calling it suboxone since it is the same thing and they might not know that but the subutex a form of suboxone does not have the blocker in it and nothing that can cause withdraw when takin like suboxone does and they probably got it confused.

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to catsscratched...the opanas are actually better for your pain compared to hydrocodone it is much more potent because it contains oxycontin and morphine hints it medical nam(oxymorphone) i would recomend asking for th instant release opanas instead of the 40mg extended release ones, but the IR opanas only come in 5mg ones and 10mg ones and maybe 15mg ones to but you will have to take more at once to equal the 40mg dose you take now obviously, and to answer your question about sniffing them do not tell your doctor that because it is concidered abuse and you will get kicked off but no you are not signing a death warrant from sniffing them it just makes the effects stronger but does not last as long so you will be fine if you sniff them though dont worry about it.

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To Twankies: Both Suboxone AND Subutex are labeled to assist with Narcotic addiction. You are correct, in that, Subutex does not have the Naloxone, but is rarely prescribed.

Something many Americans do not yet know is, a new medication is being marketed as Butrans in the U.S.A. by Purdue Pharma and indicated for the management of moderate to severe chronic pain in patients requiring a continuous, around-the-clock opioid analgesic for an extended period of time.

This has been used in Europe for many years, but just approved in the USA. In fact, it is the number one prescribed medication in Europe. The number one prescribed medication in the USA is Vicodin (Hydrocodone). Maybe we will see a shift in Americans being treated with Butrans as it becomes more popular.

If you would like more information about Butrans, go to Purdue Pharma's website and look at the product. Physicians do not need to be "Specially Certified" to prescribe Butrans, as they do now, with Suboxone and Subutex. I have worked in Europe for many years and seen the success of this medication. It is not called Butrans in Europe; it has different names in each European country.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Oh, for that NASTY poster, calling people with drug addiction names, belong in the 1800's, when science did not know anything about drug addiction and how people's lives are affected. The most interesting story I have heard of late, is how Switzerland, a very conservative country, is dealing with their Heroin-addicts.

Switzerland's Government is paying for Heroin clinics, where people can walk in off the street and get Pharmaceutical grade Heroin, clean needles and a SAFE PLACE to shoot up. Maybe America needs to do more Public Health studies on how other, developed countries are dealing with their addiction issues.

That terrible poster just shows how uneducated and egocentric he/she is. There is a really special place for people like them (I hope) when the time comes.

Good luck everybody!

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a 40mg opana pill put my 20 year old son to sleep and he never woke up. please be careful out there. he was taking it for recreation, he was healthy and not in any pain. i am so devestated and confused. they said if he obviously had no tolerance for opiates. how devestating

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Dr Abraham, I am currently being prescribed Suboxone Film and then 1 and 1/2 hrs later I take 20mg Opana. I did not believe this would work and I have been disabled and battling severe pain for over ten years. This combination actually works and I don't understand how. Can you help explain this?
Thanks.

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