Zubsolv 5.7 (Page 3)

I was on subutex 8mg and ive been reading about these new subutexs with the 8 and the arrow on them. I got a different kind there zubsolv 5.7 mg/1.4 mg? I dont understand is one of these pills equal to a 8 mg? There small white round tablet imprinted with 5.7 on the front?

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I know what that is like. Work makes it a little more nerve wracking because one can easily worry that this process can have a negative impact on one's performance at work. You have the right idea though. GRADUALLY! Thanksgiving seems like a good goal! If at any point it does get hard, just remember that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I can honestly say that I am much happier now that I do not have to worry about taking it every day. Light at the end of the tunnel!!!

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Someone gave me a small white pill with no imprint or slit on either side. Is it possible that this is a 5.7 Zubsolv? Said it came in a blister pack.

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I requested my pain management doctor stop all my meds a couple days ago. Against his wanting me to wean off them I insisted an immediate stop & gave him what meds I had remaining. ( I knew I'd relapse if I kept them). I have been on pain meds over 6 years due to injuries sustained in a car accident. ( vertebra breaks & crushed pelvis ) I was taking Exalgo 32mg in the morning & Exalgo 16mg in the evening along with oxycodon 7.5 PRN up to 4x's a day.

I've made the choice to stop the meds. I started seeing a new doctor & been through Several rounds of injections in the past 6 weeks. My pain level is tolerable for the most part & I no longer want to take the meds. I hated the "craving" feeling when I hadn't taken the meds for several hours & the anxiety I experienced when I would have only a few pills left ( always afraid for whatever reason I couldn't get a refill & go through withdraw).

I'm second guessing myself because of the withdraw symptoms. My doc gave me a couple different non narcotic pills & I had taken them 2 days. Withdraw was more than I could handle & called the doctor; he gave me a script for the Zubsolv 7.5. 2's daily. I am waiting for my son to deliver the meds as I type this. Will this medication help with the withdraw symptoms/anxiety? What are the down sides to taking it? How long does withdraw typically last for a long term user of narcotics? Any information, advice, experiences and the like would be appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I admire those who are off the meds & encourage those who are where I am in the effort to stop. I keep telling myself that there are many types of freedom but all come with a high price. For me, withdraw is the cost for my freedom from opiates. ( hopefully it won't cost my sanity too. This really sucks!!! Lol)

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Please hang in there.

The zubsolv in theory, should cause your withdrawal symptoms to subside. My advice is to not stay on zubsolv for long at all. Once you start, beginning tapering yourself off gradually for a smoother transition. Just like full opiate agonists, buprenorphine (a partial opiate agonist and active ingredient in zubsolv) can be very habit forming and cause withdrawal symptoms which tend to be a little less severe than withdrawal from full opiate agonists but last a lot longer. The half life of buprenorphine is a lot longer than the half life of full opiate agonists generally. Just be aware that switching to zubsolv is not a "cure". The key to coming off of zubsolv, in my humble opinion is to taper gradually. It worked for me and I am not the strongest person in the world I assure you. Anyway, gotta run. Good Luck to you! By the way, I am certainly not against taking zubsolv or suboxone because it certainly outweighs many risks (need I go there).

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Bro 8 mg of subutex is stronger then 5.7 solv obviously and subutex is cleaner without naloxone how do u think 5.7 mg of Bupe is stronger then 8 mgs lol sub drs arnt always honest

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Not sure I claimed zubsolv was "stronger" than Subutex. You indicate Subutex is "cleaner" because it does not have naloxone in it. I am aware that Subutex doesn't contain naloxone but the "cleaner" part I disagree with. Just sounds like you aren't looking at the medication in the healthiest way but I sure as hell am not judging because who I am to judge? Just simply making an observation and I don't know you so my observation is based off of your words only. At any rate, in terms of bioavailability, 5.7 mg of buprenorphine from zubsolv is roughly equivalent to 8 mg of buprenorphine from suboxone.

Here is one article of hundreds to support the argument:

naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm?ID=79#

I get your definition of "cleaner" but clean to me is being off of opiates (partial opiate agonists and full opiate agonists). I've been on both and haven't used either in awhile. I plan to keep it that way.

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I agree, the zubsolv is way different for me too. I was down to 2-4mgs of suboxone from 16mgs when put on them in 2008. My ins stopped covering the subs. 3 weeks ago my doc wrote me zubsolv and said to take 1/2 tab bc 1/2 is equivalent to 4mg suboxone. I'm taking 3x that much and still going through mild withdraw. Zubsolv suck and as much as I'm taking it will cost more than subs. I'm going back on subs today!

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Stop living off the state you looser.

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Hi , hopeful :) I was wondering how you're doing on the zubsolv? This is my 3rd week and I'm still struggling with the change. I went to the doc yesterday and got a script for suboxone. I haven't filled it yet, but I'm seriously considering it. I have 8 5.7 zubs left , so I'm going to give it at least a few more days.

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Skublu...I don't know if you were referring to me (Hope) in your post but just in case, I'm doing well. I found no difference between the Suboxone and the Zubsolv so I'm sorry your not having luck with it. My plan is still on track...to wean myself off of the Zub by the end of November. I know I'll have to 'pay the piper' once I quit completely; it will be a rough month after that but the way I look at it, it'll be my penance for getting myself in this situation. I just pray it doesn't ruin my Christmas. Good luck to you!!!

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I swallowed a quarter of a sunspot on accident will I still feel it

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Hi Joey. Well, I was able to wean myself off completely! I feel incredibly fortunate that the only symptoms I had were a little lethargy and RLS in my legs for two days. It has been a week and while I still feel a bit 'lazy' I am doing great. I'm still a little leary because of all the horror stories I've read on this site. If it has been a week, will I unexpectedly experience more symptoms in the coming weeks or months ahead?

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I take that Zubsolv as well and I am also worried about when it comes time to tapering off and getting off of them because I do not want to be on them for more than just a couple months. I have only been on them for about two weeks now and I do see a big difference although I've had side effects including headaches and severe leg and arm pain but I guess we'll just see. I just don't want to replace one narcotic with another narcotic that defeats the purpose so hopefully I'll just be on them for two months and be done with it.

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Hi Texan patriot! I would highly suggest you start tapering now because Zubsolv/Suboxone are extremely powerful drugs. Think about it...I took 6 to 8 fiorinal with codeine capsules every day for a little over 4 years yet one tiny Zubsolv pill staved off the withdrawals. THAT is scary powerful. While it's a lot easier to cut Suboxone film, just start breaking the pills in pieces and SLOWLY start taking smaller and smaller amounts until it's almost microscopic. I successfully weaned myself off and I've been Zub free for 3 weeks. My withdrawals were minor and very manageable. You can do this!!! Good luck sweetie :-)

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Hi Skublu! I was able to wean myself off of the Zub early! However, I will say that my last script was 2/.04 Suboxone film. It was very easy to cut the films in pieces. I've been Sub/Zub free for 3 weeks and while I had minor withdrawals for the first 4-5 days (RLS, minor insomnia, weakness, etc.), they were very manageable. My only lasting symptom is lethargy, in my legs mostly. I just don't have a lot of giddy-up in my step. But I'm not complaining. I did a lot of damage to my body over the last 5 years (4+ years taking 6 to 8 fiorinal with codeine capsules then Sub/Zub since Febrary of this year). I thank God I'm finally done with ALL that sh**!!!!! Suboxone/Zubsolv are scary powerful drugs so I beg you to start weaning yourself now. Do it SLOWLY and I promise you will be able to handle the minor withdrawal symptoms. The key word is SLOW. You got this!!!

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Thank you for replying. I'm very proud of myself for being completely off of Xanax and Methadone. I do wonder what it will be like getting off of the Zubsolv?

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Hi Ashley. Congratulations on your progress so far. Weaning yourself off Zub will be relatively the same. It is an extremely powerful drug so practicing self discipline while decreasing your dosage will be extremely important. Just remember that getting off of Zub needs to be your primary goal in life. Please do not stay on it for long. Start decreasing your dosage and continue with that process very slowly. If you adhere to that mindset you will experience very minor withdrawals. You can do this...good luck!

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Hi Hope, yes I was referring to you..I thank you for reaching out.. I'm back on the suboxone 8mg strips. I'm taking 4 mgs a day. I've been on buprenorphine since 2008. My doctor sent me out of rehab on Suboxone 16mgs a day. I had no idea I was leaving with just as big of a problem as I walked in there with., as far as having to rely on taking something everyday. I wasn't told that I was going to have to wean off . I wasn't given any instructions when it came to stopping them. When I went to my doctor 1 month after I got out of rehab he just kept prescribing them. I'm not complaining bc my life was unmanageable before I went into rehab. I had a serious opiate problem. I just wish I would have been told more about what I was taking. 16mgs a day was a very hefty dose. Being down to 4 doesn't feel any different. I still feel like I have a long road in front of me. When I take less I feel terrible and when I have to go out and do something for the whole day I find myself wanting to take 6mgs to make the day easier. I'm sure that's all in my head. I'm really having a hard time. My ins doesn't pay for any of them anymore., it's over $ 200.00 a month. I'm going back Monday and going to ask for the Subutex. I've heard they are just like the suboxone minus the naloxone and a lot cheaper. I'm going to start cutting the strips into 3 equal pieces and give that a try. It feels like I'm never going to get there. I'm so happy to hear you're 3 weeks clean of buprenorphine. CONGRATULATIONS! <3 It gives me hope. Thanks so much, Hope :)

Skublu :)

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Hello Hope! I truly appreciate your kind words of strongly needed advice. I just turned 34 on November 13th and I have been addicted to pain meds for 10 years. My mom died from an accidental overdose of morphine 8yrs ago. I watched her try to fight this evil disease called addiction and she warned and begged me on many occasions to never take pain meds. All my meds were prescribed by a doctor for a medical reason which is really irrelevant at this point. It's been a long time coming and I have a strong mindset that I haven't ever had to get off and stay off of this poison. You have to truly be ready to do the work to beat this. I know it will be a lifelong battle but I can and WILL succeed. I am afraid of how bad I'll feel when I start to taper off but it can't be near as bad as cold turkey. Congratulations to you Hope on how far you have come!! Thanks so very much.

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I know exactly how you feel Skublu. I, too, was horribly uninformed about this nasty drug when I started taking it. If you are down to 4mgs then you are doing better than you think. You mentioned that you feel bad when you try to take less. You may be trying to decrease your dosage by too much. I decreased my dosage by quarters of 1mg. Try taking 3 3/4mgs for 4 to 7 days then decrease to 3 1/2mgs for another 4 to 7 days. You will learn how your body handles the decrease. I think you will be fine but everyone is different so if you experience BAD withdrawals then simply cut your dosage by 1/8mgs. Just know that doctors are not really our friends when it comes to this evil drug. We have to take matters into our own hands. You can do this and if you have the right mindset AND discipline I believe you can rid your body of this drug by Christmas! You're in my thoughts and prayers :-)

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