Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 9)

is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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I also am amazed over those who claim oxycontin is herion(sp). These are people who have heard this from another without actually checking it out. Oxycontin is simply oxycodone in slow motion. So in that guys thinking that oxycontin is heroin would mean that if he were to take a percocet he would be taking heroin.How very wrong he is and ignorant..and so willing to beleive lies

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Does anyone know when the oxycontin that works for pain patients will be in pharmacies?
thanks,

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I originally heard the patent was supposed to expire in April of 12, but because of the recent herion epidemic, things might be changing sooner. Not sure how it works, but that's what I read somewhere... I no longer care to be in the discussion and don't really keep up but saw this one when I clicked to opt out. Just an FYI

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The DEA needs to stay out of pain medication. There are people out here that actually have a reason to be using it. Why not focus on the illegal Meth labs, they took away the good working TheraFlu because of it's ingreients, now it doesn't work and we still have hundreds of meth labs and meth related arrests. Taking that away didn't stop anything.

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My grandmother was on 80ml oxy and when the change came she would always complain about. Her pain getting worse so we figured she was double or tripling her dose to rid her pain witch ended up in a overdose. I think that more cases like this happen so i blame all the people in politics and purdue bring back the old formula to avoid this happining to anybody else

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I have been on OxyContin for 4 years now for chronic SI pain and now because of shoulder pain due to a serve car accident in the spring. When the change in formulas happened I had to increase my does. I am now living in Colombia and picked up my script for the first time..... It is OC not OP and I will need to lower the dose. Purdue still makes OC they just do not sell it in the US. I hope someone wakes up and allows Purdue to sell the effective version in the US. Chronic pain patients need something that works and should not have to ingest a bunch of plastics

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I don't write I just read but this is the first time I ever saw this brought up. My PM Dr. said last week that if I don't have a trial cord stimulator put in my spine they would drop me from the practice. I have never given any reason for them to be like this but they claim my dosages are too high, hey they gave them to me. I had epidurals they didn''t work. Had a 3 disc removal fusion that failed and now they want me to do this procedure which has a 15% failure rate which includes paralysis. I feel like just crying and then they gave me the urine test of all tests right out to the lab even though they read the results in front of me. All this was brought on because my insurance wouldn't cover Opana ER any longer and I asked for more IR's or a generic ER which they replaced 60 Opana 40mg ER's with 60 MS contin 15mg. This was the biggest joke of all. I would need at least 100mg of Morphine to equal that dose so they now have me in some bad spot and I just don't know what to do.

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break them in half

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Someone should contact purdue and tell them your story it might work they might realize what they done and bring the old oxy back

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Absolutely correct. Indeed, the "coating" of an OC contains up to 2mg oxycodone HCl, equivalent to c.1.5mg oxycodone base. The strength figures given are not for oxycodone itself but the HCl salt. I have no box, having been changed onto brandname Oxynorm (which Purdur, Napp & Mundipharma, the co-patent holders of oxycodone products make), the original Instant Release CAPSULES, not tablets, and each 20mg cap contains 18mg oxycodone, as 20mg oxycodone hydrochloride. This info is made crystal clear both on the box and on the PIL (Patient Informatiom Leaflet) which must legally be supplied with the capsules. The 120mg OC tablet then, one would expect to contain only 108mg of oxycodome base, 80mg - 72mg, and so on.
I have tried these new American thimgs marked 'OP 80' and they give the analgesia I would expect from a 40mg REAL OC; the duration of action, claimed as 12 hours and with OC really mote like 6-8 hrs, is even less with OP; & I too suffered some terrible gastric side effects as well as giving me a headache, which OC never has.
I would advise all Americans prescribed m/r oxycodone HCl tablets (still branded "Oxycontin" though they bear little or no resemblance to REAL Oxycontin, as sold outwith that country) either to access their tablets from Europe, Australia, Philippimes, anywhere EXCEPT USA; you may find yourself paying a lot of money though - US health insurance does not cover this, and if you happen to be on green 80mg or purple 120mg Oxycontin, thode strengths are REALLY expensive.
Alternatively demand your doctor yransfer you immediately onto Oxynorm capsules (brand) or I hear that US generic oxycodone IR TABLETS are reasonably effective. Mallinckrodt are always cheap and any of their products I have had have been extremely high quality. Actavis make the best generic drugs in the UK (though unlike the US, the Purdue/Napp/Mundipharma group of companies have not allowed the patent to be broken early, and brand is the only available oxycodone until the patent expires in 2016) so I would expect their A215 pills to be high quality. Roxane Labs also make Roxicodone but they are expensive. Teva make complete garbage, and I have heard of pills imprinted with a 'K' which the writer said were decent. So if you are on a 120mg OP, you will need 60mg, which is three capsules or two pills, four times daily, making your Rx, if you see the doc monthly as most do, either 336 x 20mg caps or 224 x 30mg tablets to cover 4 weeks, 28 days, the usual period between appointments and prescriptions.
I really feel sorry for Americans in pain who can not get real Oxycontin any more. I hope that the legal cases against Purdue work out in the favour of the pain patients. And I thank God that Oxycontin is not similarly going to disappear from pharmacies anywhere else, to be replaced by these pathetic pieces of some kind of gum which are certainly unfit for purpose and are breaking the Law by being sold as "Oxycontin" which they patently are NOT.
I agree that transfer to oxymorphone is not an answer; hydromorphone is a much better analgesic, though b/a is nowhere close to the oral 89% of oxycodone. Oddly, it is much more effective taken intranasally than orally. For a patient on OC 120mg bd, the dosage for equianalgesia would be between 36 & 42mg four times daily (qds). Or if using Palladone SR, two x 32mg caps twice daily, with breakthrough rescue meds always available.
My sympathies to US patients.

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I would contact your states "Disability Rights of _____ insert your state name. I would also contact your states Medical Review Board or Medical Board of Examiners. I do not believe anyone can force you to have s Intrathecal Opiod Pump put in or the like. Sound like they are just tyring to cover their ass. By the way those Pain Pumps fail and even if you are one o the few gets gets any type of relief, statisics show you might get 50% relief of pain. Is that enough for someone to mess with your spinal cord where the pump may malfunction? Some have malfunctioned and overdosed the patient causing death. I cancelled my appt for one after I spend a month online reading all the pros and cons.

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Don'tneedtoknow...
Synthetic heroin? What on earth is going on over there in the USA? Is it the trashy tabloids? How come there seems to be so much pure ignorance amongst the population regarding commonly prescribed medicines?
Don't get me wrong, the UK tabloids are amongst the worst rags in the world; The Sun & the Daily Star (as opposed to Morning Star, which is a serious paper run by the CPGB - Communist Party of GB - which unfortunately from having a great record of winning racing tips, finished bottom of the Winning Nap Selections in Flat season just finished) & often make some bad mistakes, but never in such matters of important fact. And people BELIEVE this crap, do they? And why do they equate Heroinâ„¢ as "bad"? It is, as I have already posted, along with dipipanone & cyvlizine tabs (Diconalâ„¢), absolutely essential for every doctor to carry as a matter of course; it is the ONLY commonly prescribed opiate/oid which is free of any side effects which may cause complications, esp in cardiovascular/respiratory systems in cases where injury extent, as in Road Traffic Accidents, is impossible to be ascertained on the spot. Morphine salts are not recommended as they potentially make things a lot worse, yet they use it in the USA as first-line, a dreadful situation when even hydromorphone IM/IV is preferable but rarely used.
My point this time is that interference in clinical matters is, or certainly should NEVER BE, not a matter for agencies like the DEA or other legal entities, but for Health Boards and medical organisations, which should NOT include manufacturers getting involved in medicolegal matters. The scheduling of two absolutely essential analgesics in the US CSA is just WRONG. The very two which are indispensible are said to have "no medical use" - a 'blooper' of the highest degree. We are talking pain and safety, and the US situation disregards them. The patent for oxycodone, illegally broken before it was even halfway run, is jointly held in International Law by the three companies I named. Purdue have no right to use the name OXYCONTIN for pills marked 'OP' since they beat no resemblance (apart from the ptesenve of oxycodone) to Oxycontin as described in the Letters Patent. They are, in effect, misrepresenting the product. And why? Pressure from agencies who should have no right to imterfere in clinical matters. Abuse, if you check, is nothing when compared with patients who use the drug as prescribed. Also, due to laughably lax rules on advertising (prescription only drugs are prohibited from direct-to-patient public ads in any other country I know and has been since about 1924.)
Synthetic heroin indeed. The level of public ignoranve and misinformation beggars belief, and it is my understanding that Purdue are the most guilty company when it comes to that, having been hauled before Courts for telling blatant lies in advertisements for many years, attracting relatively huge fines. So how come they have not been similarly indicted for the continued use of the patented name for what is clearly a digferent product than the patent describes???
I despair. The most expensive, inequal and primitive healthcare system in the developed world could at least stop lying, stop being a poodle of agencies whose business is not health but law enforcement, and get thimgs right. Matijuana is allowed medically in some States, only Nabilone is available elsewhere. Unfortunately the very argument used by the USA is being flaunted, that benefits outweigh risk in any livrnced med. Marijuana is not disputed as containing over 24 known carcinogens in the form of smokeable flower and leaf material. Why do you think so much was spent on R&D of Nabilone?
So many misconceptions, rumours, & downright lies. The American public are being taken for a ride by organisations with different agendas, often opposing.
I feel sorry for the US public, who should feel anger at the tripe they have to endure from 'news'papers and, shockingly, the medical profession and legal agencies whose business should never have been allowed to include ANY influence over what should be legal and clinical matters respectively.
Disgraceful and opposed to patient interest and rights. But then Human Rights in the US has a different definition to the generally accepted one which is used by the UNO.

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I heard that the six month trial period with the oxyneo is up and it was not passed and that their going back to the old formula?

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I used to take the original OC 40mg 3 times a day and it worked very well for my pain. I have a ruptured disk, fractured vertebrae, and neuropathy from HIV/AIDS. When my insurance stopped paying for even the generic football shaped pills, The Dr. put me on 2 20mg oxycodone IRs every 6 hours as needed. That worked great but it was a lot of pills on top of all the other meds i take. To keep things simpler with less pills, last week my Dr. put me on Oxycontin OP 60mg. The results are horrible! These pills basically have the same effectiveness as a Vicodin 5/500. I also went through withdrawl when the switch was made. Why make a pill that does nothing but make people who already suffer from pain suffer more? Im asking my dr next month to switch to oxymorphone (Opana) and see how that works. All this comes down to is that the oxycontin OPs are worthless. I had to take 6 60 mg. tablets one morning just to get the effectiveness i would need to be pain free. The pain relief could be compared to taking approximately 60 mg of instant release oxycocone. Please change the formula back. Purdue is not helping anything, only making things worse. Junkies are going to find a fix one way or another. If not through pharmaceuticals than through street drugs like heroin. That makes it tougher on border control. and easier for cartels, and all the rest of the gruesome reality that illegal drug manufacturers bring to mind. Change the formula to the original OC.

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You are incorrect. Purdue even says that you may see whole tablets in stool. The new formulation op's have more than just a "wax coating" it's more like a polystirex for slow even absorption of the drug. It is perfectly normal to see pieces of tablet in stool.

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I love these anecdotal 2nd hand reports. If he wasn't crushing the old pills he's psychosomatic. The new pills release hydrocodone in exactly the same way when taken whole. If they don't feel the same for him, he was an abuser.

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Sorry Alan but your very wrong. Even the dr's and purdue tell patients that with the new op..you might have to be titrated up from regular dose. If these op's were releasing the same way as the former there would be no need to do this. Also the rate of release has been changed from the former as releasing 23% per hour of dose to the new version at 17%.One of the reasons many patients go through withdrawal on the op's is their body lacks an enzyme that digests the myriad plastics in the new op.

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I can tell u dont no much about the Oxis do U. This thing they call a pain reliver is bullcrap. it does nothing that the old Med did. Its the money factor wake up.

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More people Die from this s*** thay say it' to keep that s*** from happening but they take more than thay are prescribe an were its time release it ends up killing them .. {edited for safety reasons}

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I was almost killed in a car wreck n one of the things I broke was my femur in four places n had to have one of many rods put in my body n they left the four bones moving around digging in my muscles I was put on the green oc ones after going through many other meds. That did not help the pain at all. After being put on oc pills I finally got some type if quality of life back. Then the op ones came out n I took one n I had a severe allergic reaction big huge blisters on my face n my whole body swelled up huge. Then I was put on opana n it worked good until they switched them n I had a severe allergic reaction to whatever they done to them. For people like me who really need the meds this is rediculous. What r we suppose to do??? Suffer??? Lay in bed all the time cause I can't do much with a screwed up leg n all the other things I have wrong medically?? What do I do?????

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