Watson Is Now Actavis Generic Percocet 5/325 What Is Up With This (Page 26)

I had been taking 5/325 generic Watson percocet for 4 years. Suddenly I get notified by Walgreens which I have insurance that there is no more Watson brand and I was given generic percocet 5/325 by Actavis. It is not the same at all. It has no pain relief for me. I used to break the watsons in half sometimes and never had a funny taste. I just broke one of the actavis white tablets in half and it immediately tasted like salt or alka seltzer? Has anyone had any issues with this drug too. Also, along with it not working right it has made my GI tract and stomach so ill feeling and cramping. This is not right how can they take away a medicine that someone has been on for 4 years without any problems and tell them to suddenly switch. Would a peson who has been on a certain heart medication for years be told to suddenly switch that he can't get that medicine anymore? I don't think so. I don't know what I am going to do but when it comes time to have my rx re-filled it will not be with Actavis and I will have to pharmacy shop I guess to see if I can find Watson. I am very depressed now and so unhappy I can't believe it.

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One more thing that crossed my mind for u Trish. .. endocet is generic Percocet made by the sane company that makes brand Percocet. ...I dont recall off the top of my head how exact the formula is from the generic to the brand. ..but if there is any generic that comes the closest. ..its endocet. What medication were u taking prior to getting the endocet?

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I hear ya. Life is hard enough plus the added stigma we get. These Actavis pain pills are very messed up! The Actavis Percocet 10/325 do not give me any pain relief.

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I haven't tried qualitest Percocet but I heard they are good. I used to take that brand in hydrocodone and they were great. Jennifer have you tried qualitest?

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Did you try the qualitest? How is everyone doing? Jennifer are you still on the endocet? Lola what are you on now?

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Hello everyone, just picked up my script for percocet from CVS and damn it it was the Activis. When I asked the pharmacist for qualitest he said they did not carry that brand. So here I sit in pain with a bottle full of what I believe is tums because they do absolutely nothing. Hope you are all doing well...Diane

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Oh gosh! That's awful!!!! Do you have insurance? I only ask because you can tell the doctor you can't take actavis and then they can try and get brand name authorized. That's what they did for me. Did you call walgreens to see if watsons are back? I am hearing they are. I haven't called. You would of been better off with mallinckrodt. They are way way better then actavis and I thought they worked great! One of my local pharmacies carries endocet.

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You need to tell cvs they don't work for you and ask them if they can order qualitest brand or another brand or just find a different pharmacy. My friend is getting watson again and so they have to be available. She gets the 5/325 strength so they have to still make those. It's so confusing.

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That is good news, hopefully when I call around I can find Watson. So far the pharmacies I called only carry the Activis brand. I called Shopco and they told me they could order the Mallinckrodt brand. Which is better than Activis because my last prescription filled at CVS that told me they could only get Activis filled my prescription with the "Malls". I am getting symptoms of WD cold sweats then getting very hot, right now I have a fan blowing on me by two minutes later I am cold. I hope I can get through this, it is amazing to me that a prescription for percocet made by Activis does absolutely nothing. Thank you all for your support and may you all get the right prescription brand. Damn CVS

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Hi all,

To offer my support and help, I switched to Mallinkrodt and they work great. They help with the pain, dont make my heart flutter and no constipation. I am very pleased. At this point I wouldnt go back to Watson as they were TOO strong and caused some side effects with my heart and GI issues. If they come back, great for all eh? How is everyone else doing?

Martin

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Hi Lisa, I have not tried the qualitest....I think there are people far back in this thread that talked about taking qualitest and they didn't have good results....this thread is so long now, I couldn't tell ya where or how far back. And I think, don't take my word for it but I think I read somewhere that qualitest is made by the same company that makes brand Percocet and generic Percocet. Im still taking the endocet. I just got a refill and for some reason, its not helping as much as it usually does for me. My back is killing me lately so I don't know whats up with that?

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Rammstein, you have to ask what manufacturer they use for their generic Percocet before you hand in the script. That's y many of us mentioned in previous posts that you have to go from pharmacy to pharmacy and ask before you get your script cause its gonna take you time to find out which pharmacy can help you and you don't want to be without your medication in the meantime. Try to go back to your dr and tell em the actavis is making you sick and you itch all over, cant sleep cause its giving you anxiety along with it not giving you pain relief. tell em youll give them your meds so long as they write you another script. But research where youre gonna get it filled first. Maybe he ll help you. Also you mentioned you were given malls on time...are you referring to mallinkrodt? Ive tried them and their ok...helped a little but not much but that's just me....it may work for you...to each is own as they say but if I couldn't get endocet, I would be taking mallinkrodt....just saying. but there are maybe 4 wallgreens in my town and out of the 4, only two of them will special order the endocet for me so if one location tells you they wont, another may so still try at other location even if youre turned away from one location. let us know what happens!

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Hey Martin...glad to hear you found a brand that is working great for you! Im jealous...lol. I need to call around and see if they really are stocking Watson again...I never had problems with them......they worked amazing for me...lord I hope they are coming back! Im still on the endocet and for some reason, the script I just got filled isnt helping as much as it usually does? Im having a lot of back pain the past few days...what can I do though? nothing! I just have to deal w it.

LOLA, what are you on now? you've been all over the place with different brands. What did you settle for and is it working?

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I am really sorry you got stuck with them again and they aren't working. I'm on Endocet and I also would never go back to watson. I also had great success with the mallinckrodt but I prefer the endocet. If you call CVS corporate maybe they can help or I would change pharmacies so you don't get stuck with them again.
Martin I am so glad they are working for you. When they had the watson shortage is when I got those and I thought they worked great.
Jennifer it is funny you mention that. I noticed that one month but I didn't have any withdrawal or anything. I just noticed they weren't quite as strong. But with this new bottle I just got today they are great. But I had that happen even with the mallinckrodt once and I remember it happening with the watson. The mallys were to strong one month. So I think that can happen from time to time with any of them. Martin, I have been very happy to be free of the side effects myself. Some months on refills it was worse then others. Sometimes they bothered me and the constipation was just ridiculous. I don't think you would be happy with brand name. I didn't like the way they made me feel at all! I am fine with the endocet. I took qualitest when I was on Vicodin and they were way better then watson Vicodin but it's a different medication then percocet. I would be willing to try them and see if there is a difference but I'm doing great with the endocet. Haven't heard from Lola. Hope she's doing ok.

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Jennifer, Lisa M, Martin

I'm very interested to see that you and others are having problems with different brands of Percocet. I and some of my friends (chronic pain patients) are having huge problems with different brands of our meds. Not just our pain medication, but other medications as well. I personally have a huge problem with products made by KVK Tech. Their products cause me side effects, crazy effects on how my brain works, don't relieve my pain and I get bladder infections (no history of that problem). I was taking Percocet, then my previous doctor moved me to oxycodone because of the acetaminophen in Percocet. Seems that acetaminophen causes liver issues (watch out how much Tylenol you take too). Every few months, I have to go on a pharmacy hunt to find a pharmacy that carries other brands, instead of the KVK Tech products. I find one, all is well for a couple times, then Whammy they sneak the KVK Tech in on me. Before I hand over my prescription, I question them to be certain they have or "can get" another brand.

Most of the pharmacies will not answer any questions on the phone about brands. I still try that first before I drive all over the city LOL. Found out that the FDA allows a huge "fudge factor" on the production of medications, sometimes over 12% of the actual pain reliever isn't even in the pills. There is also a huge different in the filler/buffer that's used in different brands. Some filler/buffers, which transmit the pain reliever to your CNS have been proven to be ineffective, that's why it doesn't relieve pain, and this is all legal. FDA is well aware. Are you still having problems, or did you get it all worked out?

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Hey I am sorry to notify you but Actavis bought Watson and with Oxycodone they chose the Actavis brand over the Watson so instead of the normal Watson 933 749 and 932 they are Actavis' A349 A332 A333. I would recommend this one (C 230, they are made by Alvogen) as it seems to be the best for pain so far. Also maybe try the Endocets E712 those are okay as well. Best of luck!

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Hi matt....thanks...but we've been aware of what u stated since almost the beginning of this thread. .....if you read this thread from beginning till recent...you will probably find more info than u bargained for. I wish whoever clicks on the link to this thread would read it all the way through instead of just reading a few comments. ...they would learn so much n wouldnt leave a comment about something we've learned n shared long ago n therefor, preventing this thread from being longer than necessary. There are so many links posted on news n articles about Percocet that is good to be aware of....I keep telling people I think we have the most information here on this thread than any other ive read or came across.

CO SUSIE......our problem is our Watson's got switched out by Actavis when Actavis purchased watson.....most pharmacies are carrying Actavis n it hasn't helped at all n made us sick...there's nothing in comparison to watson when it comes to pain relief ! Then we hard a hard time finding a medication that gave us any pain relief n all went thru the horrible trial and error stages n reported here what was going on often to help eachother. Ive read about the KVK Percocet n how horrible they were....so far, most of us r finding SOME relief from either endocet or mallinkrodt. Cant u find a cvs or Walgreens that can special order a medication for u? If one location says no, it doesn't mean another wont. Theres 4 Walgreen s in my town and 2 of the 4 will only special order my medication. So u need to see what works for u then find a location that will order them for u....just make sure u request the order a week in advance each month so theyre in stock when u hand in ur script to b filled n u dont go without ur meds waiting on them to come in. Also, the active ingredients in meds can fluctuate up to 20%......making it anywhere as low as 80% to as high as 120%...making the 120% formula having the most pain relief. Without figuring those numbers in the equation. ...all of us takin a 10/325 Percocet are only really getting I think the number was 8.9% of actual Percocet. ..if ur on the 5mg, there's only really 4.1% Percocet in the formula. ...these may not b the exact numbers but its just a bit more than 1% shy of the actual written dose... ud have to look it up to find out y or the exact numbers ....I forgot the reasoning behind it but I found the info somewhere on the internet not too long ago. The pharmaceutical companies and the FDA are a mafia of their own screwing everyone who takes meds! I hoped some of this info helps but I do suggest u find the time n read thru this thread..u will learn alot n become more informed!

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Jennifer
Thank you for your reply. I had heard that the effectiveness "fudge factor" allowed by the FDA is a +/- thing, but I haven't had any on the + side from KVK Tech LOL. I have lots of questions, but first I'm going to read the thread and see if the info is there. Says there's 26 pages now. WOW
I live in a mountain area and we only have 3 pharmacies within 25 mile radius, I have been making a 70 mile trip to an independent pharmacy to get a brand other than KVK Tech, which has been totally worth the trip for me.

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For me I can't take generic Percocet or any generic opiates. I have interstial cystitis or painful bladder syndrome & severe fibromyalgia. I was an RN for 38 years & pharmacists said all generics have same basic components but get Walgreens to print out other ingredients used as "fillers". Magnesium stearate is most common. My bladder goes haywire & I get nauseated & pain not controlled at all. I emailed Interstial Cystitis Association & sure enough, our bladders are very sensitive to it. It's used to help pills come off assembly line quicker. I have to buy brand name 10/325 Percocet. $10 a pill! Insanity.! My 72 yr old husband has to work just to pay my medical bills. It's usually the fillers each company uses. What makes me furious is, Percocet has been on market over 30 years. Why is cost still so outrageous?! Most drugs in clinical trials were used on men, whose metabolism is different.

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Pessimist,
You are so right about there being a huge problem. We aren't just having this problem with my pain medications, (so much for the pharmacy blaming the druggies), we are having this problem with my Metoprolol, my husband's Metformin, etc. I believe that because the pharmaceutical industry is such a multi billion dollar industry, everyone wants to cash in on it. The tried and true medications that have been working for 30 years like your Percocet, are just as wonderful as ever. Because of patents the other companies can't make it the "same", instead they are developing medications that use inferior fillers/binders. The pharmacy gets a deal from the manufacturer, then passes the inferior product on to us (not with the price savings included). Because of what I have experienced over the past 3 years with KVK Tech products and the dishonest treatment from our local pharmacies, I am certain that almost every problem we are having is related to Corporate Greed.

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CO SUSAN. ..heres another thing for u to keep in mind....if ur taking straight oxycodone.... companies have changed the formula to make it abuse deterrent so those who insufflate or inj. it apparently cant. The idea behind this was to stop the abusers but check this crap out.....what they didnt think about is if they cant be high from the meds, they will find an alternative. Sooooo, now H use has risen...which creates n causes more harm than if they were abusing pills. H is cheaper n easier for addicts to get. Also, some of the slick, surprisingly smart pill heads have found a way to get around the abuse deterrent n continue insufflating n IV'ing. So these pharmaceutical shmoo's couldnt see further than their feet n realize theres others ways much worse for these bums to make themselves feel high. So the new formulation didnt do anything but make legit, rule abiding patients suffer n push abusers to H! Crazy how dumb they r yet how wealthy theyve become by taking a mess and making it messier! So ur straight oxycodone is different than a Percocet. Dont know if u knew that about ur med. PESSIMIST.....I take endocet. ..endocet is generic Percocet made by the same company as brand Percocet. Its oblong n yellow. ...I dont know if the dyes bother u but u might wanna look into their formula to see if it has that ingredient that u cant take....if not, then it might b an option worth trying since its a generic. ...u might b able to save a few bucks

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